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Defense Secretary Suggests Civilians Are 'Pussies' For Sitting On The Sidelines
Newsweek ^ | August 16, 2017 | Harriet Sinclair

Posted on 08/22/2017 4:03:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with Mattis.


41 posted on 08/22/2017 5:32:20 AM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: MrEdd

Actually for me, when I went to boot camp I was a scrawny kid. To me boot camp was a breeze because I played baseball and basketball. Football would have gotten me killed since back in those days I didn’t and still don’t have much fear. It cost me quite a few beatings because I simply would never back down.


42 posted on 08/22/2017 5:40:11 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OMG! If he had said “sissy”, the 24/7 media would insist he be fired. Yet, “sissy” does not have an original connotation of “gay”, just someone very feeble or cowardly.

Maybe he was calling the slackers “cats”.


43 posted on 08/22/2017 5:42:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sitting on the sidelines and reaping the benefit of sacrifice that better men and women perform while serving their country, yes, makes you a pussy.


44 posted on 08/22/2017 5:46:40 AM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MATTIS CALLS NON-MILITARY MEN PUSSIES - PUSSIES EVERYWHERE OFFENDED
45 posted on 08/22/2017 5:53:21 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK.

I don’t see any reference to Constitutionality of various undeclared wars fought during Mattis’ lifetime. Also, I think that referring to his civilian bosses, including our President, as “pussies” reflects a lack of respect for civilian command of the military.


46 posted on 08/22/2017 5:55:33 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Wuli

43

What if he had said ‘splits?’ That’s so old they’d have to look it up.


47 posted on 08/22/2017 5:56:11 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: mazda77

Great post. What’s funny is that I do remember my Grandfather telling me something similar to this when I asked him what he did in WWII when I was about 12 or 13:

‘..your granddaddy rode with the great Third Army and a son-of-a-goddamned-bitch named George Patton!’:


48 posted on 08/22/2017 6:04:07 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just using the reference “appeared to suggest”, attributed to what he said, is the media’s way of twisting whatever he actually said, to make him sound bad.

Not that I disagree with the sentiment...


49 posted on 08/22/2017 6:20:08 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Because of what you're doing now, you're not going to be laying on a shrink's couch when you're 45 years old, say ‘What the hell did I do with my life?'" he added. "Why? Because you served others; you served something bigger than you."

Hey Harriet Sinclair Mattis was referring to brain-dead journalists - not to civilians in general...

50 posted on 08/22/2017 6:20:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (ISIS & Taliban feel Buddha Statues express hatred toward Islam - therefore they can be destroyed.)
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To: Chainmail

Not serving, especially during a war of attrition, is one thing. The harassment of returning people is something else entirely. I remember those days vividly. It planted the seeds for what’s happening today. They are the foundation of today’s democratic party. Like it matters, you have my permission to hate on those a$$holes all you want.


51 posted on 08/22/2017 6:20:47 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well general, if you are referring to the protesters, I agree in whole. But if you are indicating all who did not go and serve remember this. Every cog in the wheel has to work to make the machinery run.

Somebody has to mine the iron ore to make the steel to make the machines of war for those guys to wage war. Every farmer has to plow the land to grow the food to feed that army. Every logger has to harvest the trees to make the material to ship the machinery that supplies the troops.

So in effect, we are all fighting men and women.


52 posted on 08/22/2017 6:24:55 AM PDT by crz
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To: mazda77

As compared to John Kerry’s comment:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”


53 posted on 08/22/2017 6:29:28 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: unread

They’ll be howling for Mattis tol be hauled off to a re-education camp for using “homophobic”, insensitive, “triggering” words that robbed snowflakes of their “safe space”.

The last two bastions of male dominance were the military and professional sports. We’ve already seen the hysteria that occurs when some tough athlete calls an opponent a pussy or fag in the heat of battle, often after getting a hockey stick in the groin, a crack-back block on the football field, or a high hard one on the baseball diamond. The military is being subjected to the same PC nonsense. They want these men to kill and be killed at the command of their superiors, and then expect them to talk as though they are at a garden party.


54 posted on 08/22/2017 6:32:12 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: Claud

It doesn’t square at all. Newspeak’s misinterpretation also doesn’t square with Sec. Mattis’ comments to that group of submariners. Newspeak is deliberately creating a false dilemma in order to create division and acrimony among those who support Pres. Trump and his administration.


55 posted on 08/22/2017 7:09:07 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: theBuckwheat

Excellent analysis. Thank you.


56 posted on 08/22/2017 7:09:30 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Undecided 2012

I went from 152 to 179 in Basic.


57 posted on 08/22/2017 7:19:51 AM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: ebshumidors

169, not 179. That came later :)


58 posted on 08/22/2017 7:21:06 AM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: NorthMountain
True, this was directed internally at the audience Mattis was speaking to. Newsweak doing their usual perfidious technique.

As for those who say everyone should serve in order to be an "involved US citizen" I say balderdash considering why our nation was founded in the first place (Passive obedience which goes out the window under the UCMJ), however I do believe the last two years of high school should include militia type training as a requirement for graduation.
59 posted on 08/22/2017 7:27:25 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
"Not serving, especially during a war of attrition, is one thing.."

All wars are wars of attrition when your own people are dying. I remember those young men who served with me and they were great guys. And yes, I remember vividly how we were treated when we got back.

I despised our society back then - only too willing to justify their own comfort and safety while the few of us risked everything we had. We had a war going, we had good people to defend and great people on either side of us but far too many back home who were only too willing to let us suffer by ourselves.

I was wounded over there and when I got home and got out of the Marines, I still had to wear a steel brace even when I started college. One of the days when they held a "Strike for Peace" on campus, I gritted my teeth and went to a beer joint off campus to avoid them. When I walked in, I saw our college football team already there, drinking beer and they were all wearing the antiwar paraphernalia, headbands and T-Shirts for the protest.

I went up to them, leaned down to them and asked "when did you decide you were against the war? Maybe when you realized that you could get hurt, maybe die? We could've used big, beefy guys like you to maybe carry ammo boxes".

They wouldn't look at me or answer me, so I left.

To this day, it is difficult for me to respect the other men of my generation who didn't fight. I can understand that kids can make dumb decisions but they shouldn't pretend that it was for anything else but self interest and fear.

60 posted on 08/22/2017 7:28:56 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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