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To: TBP

I agree with most of your points but I don’t put the alt right in the same camp as antifa and BLM.

The alt right are white nationalists, but I don’t see them seeking to suppress other groups nor seeking greater than equal rights for themselves and I certainly don’t see them showing up at someone else’s protest to kick ass.

There are degrees of racism. Being “pro european-white” as alt right is, doesn’t mean they’ve stepped up to the level of KKK who want to suppress the rights of blacks and non-protestants.

If a white guy says he only wants to date white women, that doesn’t mean he’s riding around with the Aryan Nation cracking skulls with ball peen hammers.

I’ve heard you and plenty others ascribe a lot of bad behavior to this group but haven’t seen the actual history that justifies that, other than the press says it too without substantiating it, while ignoring antifa and blm.

Alt right is not a group I’d want to join, but I also don’t want to join the group that wants to prove how non-bigoted they are by falsely accusing them.

Keep in mind the only institutionalized bigotry in the US is against whites and males. This is why the alt right is here.


51 posted on 08/13/2017 4:52:48 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1
I don't buy the “Alt Right” label, any more than I buy the fact that this was a legitimate protest on either side. I think it started with people legitimately protesting the removal of our history and that group was highjacked by people wanting to create a riot. This whole “Alt Right” label is nothing but a moniker foisted upon decent people who are trying to maintain a civil society that works for everyone. They are trying to criminalize everyone who voted for trump. There is news yet to come on this story, and I'm betting it involves an organized group that brought these nazi demonstrators in. As someone else pointed out—the flags they were flying still had the package wrinkles.
56 posted on 08/13/2017 5:37:19 AM PDT by binreadin
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To: fruser1

Well said. It’s amazing how many here on FR are willing, even scrambling, to deny the history of European whites in the U.S.


63 posted on 08/13/2017 5:53:09 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: fruser1; Jim Robinson
And we need to unite in rejection of these extremist ideologies – all of them – and in support of civilized, ordered liberty for all.

Thank you for your sentiments, TBP. It's unfortunate that events such as this expose the ugly underbelly of white nationalism—which is every bit as unacceptable as things like the Black Panther movement, "Antifa" fascism, and BLM lies. The fact that they're "different" from one another—or that some might be more extreme than others—doesn't excuse any of it.

And anyone who is trying to conflate opposition to racism with "denying the history of Europeans in America" or tearing down Confederate statues is completely misguided.

They're coming out of the woodwork today, and I expect to see some blowback. FR is a community for all patriotic American conservatives who believe in equality—Black, White, Yerllow, Red, Brown. Anyone who wants to exclude non-Whites from America's history—or claim that Whites are "superior" in any way—can go pound sand. Individual Freedom is superior, and inasmuch as some White people have helped spread that, then great. But Whites certainly enjoy no monopoly—on either the good or the bad.

While supremacist attitudes are legal in America, I reject them categorically, and I hope Jim Robinson does, too. I'm seeing some seriously over the line stuff today, and might have to re-evaluate my participation in this community based on some of the garbage I'm reading.

I'll wait and see what JimRob and his mods do...

70 posted on 08/13/2017 6:22:45 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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