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To: Celerity
The two party system is very, very important.

The Founders did not want a party system Unfortunately that is what almost immediately evolved
11 posted on 08/12/2017 6:45:49 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

What did the founders want?

AFAIK what we’ve got now has become anything but what our founders wanted. The parties only care about themselves.


16 posted on 08/12/2017 6:55:22 AM PDT by Aria (i)
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To: uncbob; Starboard

“The Founders did not want a party system Unfortunately that is what almost immediately evolved”

It was inevitable, but the what evolved was still prudent and American in value.

I can’t speak much to Whig and other parties in our history, but Republican and Democrat speaks volumes of a forgotten history.

A history when people (As happens EVERY election) question the Electoral College and start to think about popular votes to choose leaders. This one, single move will convert the US from a Republic to a Democracy.

It is the job of Republicans to keep things the same. To say “No”. To preserve the Republic and be Conservative.

It is the job of Democrats to move the elections to a popular vote. It is their job to change the US to Democracy. It is their job to Progress to another state, to be Liberal.

Lets say we had a 3rd party here in the US. The Democrats know full-goddam-well that they are NOT to be split. Whichever party splits is the one that loses. The democrats will run to the endgoal of a communist state.

If a party splits, it will be the conservatives because so many people think “Well.. We could make _some_ changes... right?” and the moment a republican fails to say “No” they are no longer a conservative. Democrats don’t have this problem. There is no such thing as a DINO. There is only Joe Lieberman.

If this party splits, then the power will move to the party that did not split. Ross Perot taught us this very painful lesson.

But what if a candidate ran on an independent ticket.. that we all really, really liked ? What if Neal Boortz ran ?

I would LOVE his ticket... except for one, big ultra-super-duper no-no. Abortion. As a libertarian his opinion of letting people do with theirs as they wish to do doesn’t quite jive with all of the issues.. and some are important. I think killing babies is a really, really important thing to not do. I’m kinda funny that way.

You see a third party ticket allows someone to jump in who doesn’t HAVE to stick with an agenda. He can swing anyway and there isn’t anything we can do or even predict about it. He’ll just go off and do whatever he feels.

With a two party, we predict what we’re about to get. We know that if we vote for a republican (A real one, lets say hypothetically because god knows...) we aren’t going to get Mr Financial stability, strong military and-oh-by-the-way-we’re-killing-millions-of-babies-because-we-just-don’t-want-them.

Two parties are critical to the process. What we SHOULD be talking about is eliminating the Democrats entirely and replacing them with a new run of pro-America, pro-capitalist, pro-constitution and pro-freedom “Progressives” who suggest changes that we as a people get to vote on.. Yay or Nay.


22 posted on 08/12/2017 7:06:23 AM PDT by Celerity
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