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KID ROCK FOR SENATE-When to go ALL-IN?

Posted on 07/24/2017 8:32:09 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

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To: azcap

I understand your reasoning on this, but it has been my experience, having lived in Connecticut and Illinois, that if you don’t draw the line somewhere, you get played by the party, that wants more than anything to be able to recruit “moderate” candidates wherever possible.

I did not vote for Mitt Romney in 2012, and not because I wanted a second term of Obama. I believe that if we let a pro-abort in at the head of the party, that we will gert nothing BUT soft on cultural issues types like Canada gets. We will be marginalized across the board.

Trump supporter Roger Stome is a pretty vile man. He is also pro-abort (wife at the time founded Republicans for Choice) but even he advised Trump to be Pro-Life. This does not work if you aren’t willing to pull support for the so-called 80% candidate. Michigan Republican Rick Snyder is mostly pro-life, certainly compared to Kid Rock, and ran as a pro-lifer. He still won statewide.

There is an assumption that those of us who will not support pro-abort candidates are not looking at the big picture. The contrary is true, we are looking at a bigger and longer term picture.

That said, I understand those who have come to different prudential judgments for the right reason.


21 posted on 07/24/2017 3:40:04 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: azcap
I understand exactly what you are saying. What I was saying, however, is I am absolutely sure there is someone else in Michigan that could get elected besides Kid Rock. This is why we have primaries. If Kid Rock wins the primary amongst 3-5 candidates, well, I suppose that's it. For me, however, a libertarian is almost as bad as a Dem. Just take a deep breath of Rand Paul and see what him and McCain and a few others are doing with Trump. Libertarians are so pure, they only vote yes on their own bills. Otherwise the Constitution is put in danger of collapse. I don't know Kid Rock. I;m glad he's a conservative. I just don't know how conservative he is.

As far as getting 80% of what you want, How realistic is it to do away with gay marriage now? How about legal dope? And abortion? Just look at socialized medicine called Obamacare? You can't get the toothpaste back in the tube. Just declaring homosexuals as needing psychiatric care, and not "rights" is gone forever. In 5 years we will have multiple wives and some will have fur. This is the incrementalism you speak of, NOT the other way around. We even have churches bending to this abomination. It will NEVER be illegal again. Obamacare is just the steppingstone to single payer. Rand Paul thinks he can just hold out and we can go back to privater insurance. The people on Medicaid at 4 times poverty, WILL NEVER GO BACK. If you get your insurance from work, get ready, they will raise your rates for less service to dare you to go to gubmint insurance. My insurance was free from Truman's day, and has gone from free to $840 a month in 4 years. All Obamacare is, is using insurance companies for contractors to the government. It's a small move to dissolve the insurance companies and move them into some alphabet part of the government to oversee the medical benefits for everyone once we admit that we would rather pay another $10 trillion for medical for illegal aliens. We don't seem to be worried about the debt, so why not double it again in 8 years.

Maybe Jesus will come in September when Virgo gives birth to the King planet Jupiter on Feast of Trumpets. That sounds like a better bet than keeping the congress with people like Kid Rock. I was just pointing out that if we have any Freepers in Mich, maybe they should consider running.

22 posted on 07/24/2017 6:24:24 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: woweeitsme
I’m guessing he’s pro-abortion and “gay rights”, but if he’s willing to help put the brakes on out of control spending, he at least will help out more than Stabenow EVER would.

Don't confuse simply not caring about abortion and gay rights with being pro-abortion and gay rights. I suspect like President Trump, Kid Rock doesn't spend a whole lot of time pondering the issues of abortion and gays.

A lot of us are just tiring of the socon litmus tests every time an otherwise good candidate throws his hat into the GOP ring.

Myself? As a father of four and concerned for my children' futures, these two issues are at the bottom of things I lose sleep over. I'm supporting Kid Rock.

23 posted on 07/24/2017 6:33:56 PM PDT by Drew68
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I like him running....shake up the GOPe and make the RATs miserable! Maybe...with luck...we can get other vocal take no prisoners to run too. This is an encouraging sign.


24 posted on 07/25/2017 12:36:20 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.6l)
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To oppose or dismiss someone like Kid Rock running for office is to make the argument that all has been going well in Congress.


25 posted on 07/25/2017 4:53:44 AM PDT by Maverick68 (T)
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