Posted on 06/25/2017 8:05:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
The current plan in the Senate, much like the House version of the bill, does not repeal Obamacare. In fact, it is only a stay of execution and sets the Republican Party up for failure and possible total collapse in 2018, where a rejuvenated Democrat Party will resume control and usher in single-payer healthcare.
No one in the GOP, and no one even in most of the conservative blogosphere and in talk radio other than perhaps Mark Levin and Andrew Wilkow on Sirius XM Patriot 125 (12pm-3pm EST), are talking about the root cause of the issue.
Federal regulations, subsidies, mandates, and state insurance commissions, as well as left-wing special-interest groups and intense lobbying from the pharmaceutical and insurance industries, are running health-care into the ground.
The sacred link between doctors and patients have been severed. Independent or private physician practices are vanishing at an unprecedented rate, or are being consumed by hospital networks, who are putting rent-seeking and high-profits ahead of patient needs.
The GOP sent dozens of repeal votes to the Senate. Yes, they died under the Senate when Reid controlled it and would have been vetoed by Obama anyway. But they still sent them.
So what is stopping them for sending a repeal vote to Trump's desk?
Here's the thing. The Republican Party is not obligated to fix, work with, "conservatize", manage, or fine-tune Obamacare. NO REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR OBAMACARE. So why are they worried if it fails miserably as it's going to do?
They are buying into this notion that poor people are going to lose their plans if their bill passes. But what about the people who lost their plans under Obamacare. Where are their sob stories?
They are also buying into this false premise that someone from government must be responsible healthcare. Who knows your health better than you? Who assigned or appointed experts who think they can plan your life better than you?
All the GOP Congress has to do is send a full repeal vote to Trump. If the Dems or establishment Republicans block it, so be it. The system remains in the Dems' hands and it'll continue to be their baby.
If this bill somehow passes Congress and Trump signs it, what's going to happen is that the media and Dems will automatically blame Trump and call it Trumpcare. Ryan and McConnell will NOT be held responsible. The people who lost their plans under Obamacare have been ignored, but the moment Trump signs this garbage, there will be one sob story after another.
We need to have this debate on healthcare. There is nothing stopping states from implementing their own plans. In fact, almost all the states have some form of plan to help low-income residents. WI has Badgercare, for example. Tennessee has Tenncare. What is stopping Congress from just simply ending Medicare/Medicaid at the federal level and turning them over to the states to run? I'll even support a one-time block grant to the states if it means getting these and other federal health programs out of Washington.
Obamacare must be fully repealed, or we will have single-payer.
I might catch some flack for this, but I for one think healthcare has gotten WAY TOO EXPENSIVE, and WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE are excluded.
That is to say, until Obamacare.
I think Obama was a terrible president. I however think he did the right thing on healthcare.
We should NOT repeal healthcare reform. We should ensure that every single American has access to affordable healthcare.
I’m not saying how that has to happen, but the GOP was in charge for a lot of years, and it just kept getting worse. More expensive, and more people excluded (from both parties)
Nope.
Obamacare was a step in the right direction.
Don’t reverse it.
at least you are consistent.
So you are one of those folks who believe that Insurance is much more important than Medicine, that ruinously expensive insurance that you can’t use because of the catastrophic level of the deductible insures that you will never recoup any portion of the money that you pay for insurance that you could have been spending on medical care.
You're joking, right?
Obamcare increased coverage. But coverage does not equal care. Many people on Obamacare can't use it because providers are not accepting it and their monthly premiums and deductibles are too high.
You are focused on coverage - but if single-payer is implemented providers will drastically decrease and get out of the market, because no one is going to provide care at a loss.
Then rationing is going to kick in, and panels of bureaucrats are going to determine if you are viable enough to society in order to get that needed procedure.
All I know is America currently has the MOST EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE on the planet.
By far the most expensive.
And far, far, far too many Americans are excluded, for pre-existing conditions.
Our insurance and healthcare systems are badly, badly mismanaging American healthcare.
Badly.
Doing more of what fails, that’s pure genius.
You stated..”We should ensure that every single American has access to affordable healthcare.”....
There was never a time where people didn’t have access to health care ....affordable and not...... Most were simply unwilling to sacrifice their entertainment and fun things to obtain it ....a fact few would admit to.
Those on welfare were covered by Medicade......
BS. Obamacare needs repealed RFN.
I disagree.
We seem to be on opposite sides on this issue.
I understand. I seem to be in a very big minority on this issue, on this website. I have held my tongue mostly, but this seems to be coming up again for a vote soon.
Just wanted to speak my mind. Now I will back-off a bit, because I do understand this website is not for Obamacare.
But I just wanted to state that we have the most expensive healthcare on the entire planet.
NOBODY has healthcare, anywhere near as expensive as America.
Nobody.
The entire industry needs to be deregulated, from top to bottom. But first, Obamacare must be repealed. It must be wiped away from the books so liberal activist judges can't cite it in any legal cases.
That and disrupt the healthcare monopolies, drug importations, etc.
Right there with ya. My lying senator b@stards will not vote for repeal. Strong letter to them tomorrow. Won’t do a bit of good. They lied straight to our faces.
So me and my family waiting for two to four months to see a DOCTOR IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?
You are out of your mind?
Before all this horse shit you and your ilk dreamed up, I could make an appointment and get in to see MY DOCTOR in two weeks MAX! Most of the time in two days. Now anyone is lucky to even have a doctor to go and see since O-son-of-a-Bitch care ran a whole ton of them the hell out of business.
Shouldn’t you be on another site if you are goind to peddle hardline communist government control of medical treatment?
I did not say that I want government to control healthcare.
Did not say that.
You most certainly did. post 2
boy, the OP is going to be really, really pissed off that you forked up his little vanity thread.
Where?
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