Does the Pentagon Come Clean About Military Disasters?

Freeo | 06/19/2017 | Charles O'Connell

[CharlesOConnell]

Is honest accounting about military mistakes the rule, or the exception. The disaster of the USS Fitzgerald's collision with another naval vessel, to the loss of 7 servicemen's lives, is being proclaimed "a mystery". Is the mystery only in the Navy's obstruction about the real news, or do the military services and the Pentagon customarily exercise transparency in accounting for their actions to the taxpayers who foot the bill?

[xone]

Get real. This was NO ‘collision’. This was a deliberate RAMMING. Now, take it from there........

If true doesn't change anything regarding what is going to happen at the board of inquiry.

[The Westerner]

Unfortunately, if you even get some info, you won’t be able to share it. We’ll have to wait for the Navy report. Two curious coincidences: this is a hot spot the Navy is patrolling and radar may have played a part in both collisions. If I had to guess I’d say Obama’s campaign to make America weaker is a factor. However, the crew rallied to save the ship. See, BHO, you can’t take the fight out of the American sailor!

[LS]

I know nothing about ships/boating. I am told by a pro boater that his crappy radar can detect a sheet of aluminum on the water hundreds of yards out, so it seems we are looking at jamming here.

[Chgogal]

Thank you for asking. What a strange naval event. It is so hard to believe.

[The Westerner]

LS, did you read the posts above at #17 and #19? Stormprepper says accidents happen daily, we just don't hear about them. Smokingun suggests that the “modern Navy” is trying to manage their complex boats with less manpower. You suggested jamming of radar by hostile actors. All interesting and only the radar jamming theory would be an act of war...especially given the trouble brewing in that region today.

[LS]

Team Trump concerned about this

[mrsmith]

A container ship is not maneuverable enough to ram a Destroyer.

This resulted from a deliberate act by someone on the Fitz.
Or a very unlikely series of incompetent acts by them.

[xrmusn]

LOL! This stuff happens every day.
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More than that....<: <: <:

Been hearing talk about a ‘deliberate ramming’....

Knowing what a submarine with a full head of steam can do to a destroyer when rammed midships, can only figure that if the freighter was trying to sink the DDG, it would be at the bottom long about now.

And that is just taking into consideration of WHERE the DDG was hit and then factor speed and the fact it takes about 3 football field to slow one of them babies down, if the object was to sink it, she would have been sunk.

Also that is a heavily traveled sea lane area, Tokyo, Yokahoma & Yokosuka are ‘serviced’ by Tokyo Bay,