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To: marktwain

“Autonomous vehicles have been driving on the streets for decades already. They do not have fallible humans putting contradictory and nonsense instructions into them. They are ot connected to the Internets, a major source of malware and viruses. They have excellent safety records.”

This is untrue. Decades? On the streets? M’kay. Where - what town, state, or city - have fully autonomous automobiles been operating as a majority user since the 90’s? ‘Cause I want to go see. Bad.

And you are actually writing that humans do not program these operating systems?

They ARE connected to the internet. (Have you actually been in one?)

They do not have excellent safety records. They have no complete record at all. You are confusing one system of driver-assisted vehicles with autonomous systems. Did you read the article?


46 posted on 06/11/2017 8:03:25 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

And you are actually writing that humans do not program these operating systems?

They ARE connected to the internet. (Have you actually been in one?)

They do not have excellent safety records. They have no complete record at all. You are confusing one system of driver-assisted vehicles with autonomous systems. Did you read the article?


Okay, my memory on when they first started in urban areas was incorrect. It has only been a bit over a decade. The first DARPA Challenges were in 2004 and 2005, the first Urban Challange in 2006.

The “Majority User” straw man was not included in my post, and is not likely for decades. It will take a while for a majority of users to switch, and more autonomous vehicles will make the road safer, not less.

Sure, humans program the systems, but they are *not* continually putting different commands into the system.

I suspect fleets of the vehicles, such as Google and Uber are connected to the Internet, just as an easy way to collect data. The concept vehicles were designed *not* to need an internet connection, and it is a point of failure to *require* it.

As for *driver assisted* vehicles, you are assuming that the drive actually puts information into the system, which, as I recall from my reading, is *not* the way they work.

I have been reading about these systems since at least 2003, and I have been astounded by the capabilities that have been developed.


67 posted on 06/11/2017 9:03:17 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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