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US Admits N. Korea and/or Iran Can Hit It With EMP.
Right Wing Conservative News Blog ^ | May 11, 2017 | Jeffrey A. Friedberg

Posted on 05/11/2017 11:36:09 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger

It’s said that an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) bomb set off at the correct magnitude and altitude could “fry” the unprotected US power grid and send America back to the 18th Century. This means no electricity, emergency services, food production or delivery, water pumping or delivery, and failure of just about anything else that depends upon electricity, motors, or computers.

Millions and millions of people would flat out die within days or weeks: of starvation, dehydration, fever, sickness, riots, and worse.

And there are those critics—some seemingly madcap—who poo-poo the idea entirely, saying it can’t be accomplished by either Iran or North Korea.

Others call it, “a pipe dream,” or just a rumor, some nefarious scheme somehow instigated by Trump, Republicans, and Vladimir Putin.

Well, it’s apparently real.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: emp; empkorea; empnorthkorea; empusa
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1 posted on 05/11/2017 11:36:09 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Too late I guess.


2 posted on 05/11/2017 11:40:09 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Mutually Assured Destruction is not a deterrent to Iran/Muslims.


3 posted on 05/11/2017 11:45:19 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Starfish Prime was a July 9, 1962 high-altitude nuclear test conducted by the United States, a joint effort of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Defense Atomic Support Agency
Starfish Prime caused an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), which was far larger than expected, so much larger that it drove much of the instrumentation off scale, causing great difficulty in getting accurate measurements.
The Starfish Prime electromagnetic pulse also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometres (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights, setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a telephone company microwave link. The EMP damage to the microwave link shut down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands.[


4 posted on 05/11/2017 11:48:29 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: laplata

If MAD isn’t persuasive, then the only other choice where we survive is first strike.


5 posted on 05/11/2017 11:48:42 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

How about we start preparing for this.


6 posted on 05/11/2017 11:51:26 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Russia,Russia,Russia 24/7. Our enemies bide their time, sharpen their knives and distract a stupid people. I don’t want to test the theory of “One Second After” nor do I like anybody who threatens this country.


7 posted on 05/11/2017 11:51:44 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

EMP doesn’t require a nuke. there are non-nuke EMP weapons in existence now.


8 posted on 05/11/2017 11:56:22 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (we need to vertically incentivize our change agent)
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To: kosciusko51

That’s right.

The Muslims don’t even worry that Israel has Mecca targeted.


9 posted on 05/11/2017 11:58:54 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Well, that was a whole lot of alarmism for not much payoff.

A small fission weapon will not produce widespread, devastating EMP. That requires much larger fusion weapon(s). NK is nowhere near possessing such a weapon, much less miniaturizing it and fitting it to a missile.

Here is a good article on the Soviet 300 KT thermonuclear EMP tests over the occupied USSR:

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html

Note that the 300 KT weapons were about ten times larger than the largest NK has tested.


10 posted on 05/11/2017 11:59:35 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: Democrats hate too much

“How about we start preparing for this.”

This should absolutely be on the Trump agenda. Not only would the grid be able to survive an EMP attack, but it would be able to survive the large solar storm that will inevitably happen at some point.

That is an infrastructure project worth doing!


11 posted on 05/11/2017 12:02:10 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

“How about we start preparing for this.”

This should absolutely be on the Trump agenda. Not only would the grid be able to survive an EMP attack, but it would be able to survive the large solar storm that will inevitably happen at some point.
That is an infrastructure project worth doing!


I remember something about Trump addressing this. It is imperative that we “harden” the grid. Russia has hardened theirs.


12 posted on 05/11/2017 12:06:33 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

There you go again :)


13 posted on 05/11/2017 12:20:16 PM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy)
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To: Democrats hate too much

How about we start preparing for this.


The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has charged BAE Systems to map a system that can detect a cyber attack and gin up an alternative communications network for military and civilian use if the grid is fried, according to Defense Systems, the online newsletter.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/getting-ready-pentagon-to-protect-electric-grid-from-massive-attack/article/2620280


14 posted on 05/11/2017 12:22:05 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

“Then if a crisis comes up and if we decide to attack North Korea, Kim Jong Un can threaten our president and say, ‘Well, don’t do that because we are going to burn your whole country down...

Well then isn’t it TOO LATE TO ATTACK already?

We wont hit EVERY mobile launching pad in first strike ad a nuke will be in the air, incapable of being knocked out, and kill 90 percent of the American people.

Or so the article strongly asserts.

We could let China know that they will be considered an enemy target of our subs should that happen.

But again, if they’re already riding around, they could fry America AND China.

And we can’t defend against it.

Seems to impossible to believe but that’s what it says.


15 posted on 05/11/2017 12:33:41 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Robe

30 street light circuits. A single burglar alarm that police responded to. Intermittent communication failures reported by the FAA for a short while.

Don’t overstate the effects.

Also, consider that the weapon detonated in 1962 was 140 times as powerful as the best the N. Koreans have managed thus far. Even if they had one as powerful, they would still have to detonate a number of them to get broad coverage of the United States. One wouldn’t cut it, and one at the power they have thus far been able to produce wouldn’t cause enough damage to avert an immediate and overwhelming response. It would be suicide.


16 posted on 05/11/2017 12:35:01 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Alarmist nonsense.
An EMP bomb can grill some electronic devices (NOT electrical devices) in a small area. It can’t shutdown a whole region, let alone shutdown “permanently”, let alone all the USA.
If it was anywhere as powerful as hyped, then it would be criminal not to use it against ISIS’s internet and phone infrastructure. But it’s not.


17 posted on 05/11/2017 12:35:56 PM PDT by miniTAX (ay)
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To: Democrats hate too much

Hardening of the electrical grid is a priority in the infrastructure plan.


18 posted on 05/11/2017 12:36:40 PM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger
All they need is a bunch of Nork or muzz slimes with rifles shooting out those big units that they have at electrical sub stations to take down our grid. I think they're only made in Germany and it's not like there are a bunch of spares lying around. They take months to make and ship.

Probably we should have created a strategic sub station reserve, but that's water under the bridge at this point.

19 posted on 05/11/2017 12:47:32 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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At present only the USA, Russia and perhaps China can deploy an EMP weapon that would ‘shut down the entire US grid and take us back to the stone age’.

That said, the ‘grid’ is incredibly delicate, and can be taken down for a few hours or a few days locally and often regionally quite easily.


20 posted on 05/11/2017 12:48:51 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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