Posted on 05/09/2017 5:29:31 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana
Where’s My Immigration Prediction Model?
Posted May 8th, 2017 @ 12:11pm in #immigration #muslim
If scientists can make climate prediction models that are reliable (or so they tell us), why can’t they do the same with Muslim immigration predictions?
Predicting the average temperature on Earth ten years from now is hard. There are too many variables. But predicting the outcome of immigration policies probably involves far fewer variables. All we need to do is look at other countries that experienced lots of Muslim immigration and subtract out the countries that reversed the trend with military force, because I assume we wouldn’t see any of that in the United States, especially if the immigrants are legal.
A good immigration prediction model would find the “tipping point” where the percentage of Islamic population nearly guarantees the entire country will become Muslim in the long run. Is that 10% or 65%? I have no idea.
Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. Birth rates are high, followers are motivated, and the system is hard to leave once you are in it. If any country in the world allowed unlimited immigration forever, that country would likely become Islamic in the long run, although it might take a few hundred years. But no country allows unlimited immigration, so that isn’t a realistic scenario.
A realistic scenario is what the United States and much of Europe are experiencing. We have to decide the rate and type of immigration that will be good for the country. But if we don’t know where the tipping point is, how can we make informed decisions?
My provocative thought for today is that the pro-immigration people and the anti-immigration people are actually on the same side and don’t know it because no one has made an immigration prediction model. For this claim, I will exclude the extremes on both sides, so subtract out the true open-border globalist on the left and the pure racists on the right. We’ll focus on the sensible middle that wants some degree of immigration while maintaining the good parts of the existing culture. But how does either side decide how much is the right amount of Muslim immigration, and how much is too much? Where’s my immigration prediction model?
Suppose I said to you that 20% Islamic population will guarantee that eventually – perhaps in a hundred years or more – the country will have a dominant Islamic culture, with all that implies for women and the LGBTQ community.
I don’t know if having 20% Muslim citizens is anywhere near the tipping point. But consider that gays represent perhaps 10% of the country, and that was enough to change laws. Consider that the United States is strongly pro-Israel while the Jewish population of the United States is under 2%. The size of the minority seems less important than their level of motivation. Muslims appear to be motivated.
The weird thing about the immigration issue is that the only people with coherent opinions are the ones on the extremes. The racists on the right are repugnant, but their opinions are coherent, given their preferences and priorities. Likewise, the open-border globalists have an approach that you might find impractical and dangerous, but it is a coherent philosophy, and easy to understand.
The people who don’t have coherent opinions on Muslim immigration are the so-called reasonable people in the middle. It is nonsense to argue about whether our Muslim immigration policies are good or bad without the benefit of knowing where the tipping point is, if such a thing even exists. My guess is that the pro-immigration people and the anti-immigration people would agree we shouldn’t go past the tipping point. But if neither side knows where the tipping point is, you can’t call the opinion on either side sensible.
So that’s where we are on this issue: The extremists on both sides are repugnant and/or stupid. But they are the only ones with policy preferences that are rational – based on their priorities of course, not yours. The so-called sensible people in the middle (including me) have opinions that are effectively nonsense because we don’t know where the tipping point is.
how about a forward-reaching National IQ model accurately predicting will be at average 75 in about 10 years. Right up there with Kenya
I like Scott Adams.
This is classic persuasion not to allow more Muslims into the country.
First, he frames the question as how many Muslims are too many. That destroys the assumption of the left that the Muslims will just become good socialists, when the schools have their children for a couple of generations.
Then he plants the seeds of doubt and places himself in the golden “middle”.
If there is a tipping point, it is bad, and Muslims are breeding fast and do not let people leave their religion.
Anyone can see that the tipping point will be reached, because Muslims outbreed us.
Very well crafted.
Listen to the Joe Rogan podcast #874. Adams is any interesting guy.
I think the tipping point will be at 10% or even less. Nigerians have an “average” birthrate of almost 7 children per woman. Somalia is over 6 per woman. The Nigerians and Somalians that we import are almost exclusively Muslim. You can go to CIA.gov, and you will see that almost all the African countries boast over 6 children per woman. We whites do not reproduce at those levels, aside from the Duggars. We are almost at the point of being majority minority, so we don’t have long to change the trajectory.
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Dated but should be read by everybody! Muzzie Population Predictor at link!
http://shoebat.com/2011/07/02/what-to-expect-the-effect-of-muslim-population-growth-on-a-society/
The article says gays are 10% of the population. There’s no way it’s anywhere near that; it’s more like 3%.
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