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How a secret Freedom Caucus pact brought down Obamacare repeal (Conspiracy Theory)
Politico ^ | 26 March 2016 7:03AM/9:39 update | Rachael Bade, Josh Dawsey and Jennifer Haberkorn

Posted on 03/26/2017 11:57:37 AM PDT by blueplum

The behind-the-scenes story of the staredown between a few dozen conservative true believers and a novice president.

....In a conference room in the Rayburn House Office Building, the group met that evening and made a secret pact. No member would commit his vote before consulting with the entire group — not even if Trump himself called to ask for an on-the-spot commitment. The idea, hatched by Freedom Caucus Vice Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), was to bind them together in negotiations and ensure the White House or House leaders could not peel them off one by one. Twenty-eight of the group's roughly three dozen members took the plunge. Three weeks later, Republican leaders, as many as 25 votes short of passage, were forced to pull their bill from the House floor. “This is a defining moment for our nation, but it's also a defining moment for the Freedom Caucus,” said group leader Mark Meadows about a week before the doomed vote was scheduled. “I don't think there's a more critical vote for the Freedom Caucus than this." The unpublicized pledge sowed the seeds of Friday’s collapse of ....

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: freedomcaucus; healthcare; meadows; obamacare; republicans; ryan; ryancare; trump
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Get a cup of coffee. It's a very long article conspiracy theory.
1 posted on 03/26/2017 11:57:38 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Proud of my Rep. Dave Brat.
Obamacare II was not a repeal, it was simply rearranging.


2 posted on 03/26/2017 12:01:44 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Obamacare II was not a repeal, it was simply rearranging.

I agree that the Ryan plan was fubar. But, I still support Trump and still want him to proceed to drain the swamp, reduce the scale of government and bust up the uniparty.

I can understand why he let Ryan have a shot at it, and I hope he learns a lesson about politics from this episode.

3 posted on 03/26/2017 12:05:09 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: blueplum

ObamaCare was not being repealed. Not bothering to read the article.


4 posted on 03/26/2017 12:05:18 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: blueplum

“There is no logical explanation for their behavior except they wanted to kill the bill,” said one senior House Republican, furious about the bill’s defeat.

Well, duh. Repeal Obamacare! Every damn word of it and replace it with free markets, ie, feds stay OUT!


5 posted on 03/26/2017 12:05:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: blueplum

No conspiracy or secret deals, the minute they chickened out from a straight repeal we knew they’d come up with a replacement, and said replacement would be opposed by conservatives for being more of the same and opposed by liberals for getting rid of their proud flagship, and therefore would fail. It as politics as usual, obvious months ago.


6 posted on 03/26/2017 12:08:22 PM PDT by discostu (There are times when all the world's asleep, the questions run too deep, for such a simple man.)
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To: Cementjungle

Scroll down for his tweet today.
I’m ticked off that he’s blaming the Freedom Caucus when they saved him from having the albatross of Obamacare II hung around his neck by Ryan.
If he sides with Ryan and the RINOs against the Freedom Caucus, I’m out.


7 posted on 03/26/2017 12:08:42 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: blueplum

I wonder if RyanCare would get the HFC votes if he reversed the phases.


8 posted on 03/26/2017 12:08:56 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: blueplum

Thank God there are at least a few freedom-loving, constitutionalist, non-statist Congressmen willing to stand up.


9 posted on 03/26/2017 12:10:03 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: blueplum

I truly believe that Ryan wanted this bill to pass knowing full well that it was crap so that it could blow up in Trump’s face. The democrats and the RINOs have shown us that they want no disruption or change to their empire. We should all be proud of the conservatives who held their ground. Trump should now know that Ryan is a POS who needs to be voted out of office.


10 posted on 03/26/2017 12:10:25 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: blueplum

Jim Jordan for Speaker.


11 posted on 03/26/2017 12:10:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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To: blueplum
The problem with RyanCare was that there was too much selling of the sizzle and no mention of the steak.

What was the steak even made of? Tofu? Or, in this case, snatofu?

12 posted on 03/26/2017 12:10:48 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: blueplum

that took forever to post!!

I’m wondering how people feel about Senators possibly telling Representatives what to demand Trump include in the bill - knowing those demands would guarantee the bill failed in the senate?

And do people feel is it ethical for two former presidential candidates to actively work together to undermine the sitting president?

What about two senators holding frequent press conferences stating categorically the bill would fail in the senate (while working with the FC to make it defeatable)?


13 posted on 03/26/2017 12:11:45 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Why didnt Trump sell free markets as the replacement to 0bamaCare?


14 posted on 03/26/2017 12:12:55 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Scroll down the main page for his tweet this morning. He learned nothing.


15 posted on 03/26/2017 12:13:03 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: discostu

sorry about the ‘conspiracy theory’ heading but I had to put this under ‘conspiracy’ because it’s Politico, who is marginally banned lately.


16 posted on 03/26/2017 12:14:34 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: blueplum

There was at least one outside the Freedom Caucus who expressed unwillingness to vote for Obamacare Lite (my own congresscritter, which was a shock). There may well have been others.


17 posted on 03/26/2017 12:16:05 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: blueplum
If it was a secret, how did Pollutico find out about it?

Wiretap we much, Pollutico?

Who spoon fed Pollutico this info? Jamie Gorelick, perhaps?

18 posted on 03/26/2017 12:16:57 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I have no idea.
I also don’t know why he has not rescinded Obama’s illegal DACA program which is still operating as if it were law and not something Obama dreamed up.
9750 more illegal aliens have been given work permits since Trump took office.
When it hits 10,000 can we call it Trump’s illegal DACA program?


19 posted on 03/26/2017 12:18:30 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I’m ticked off that he’s blaming the Freedom Caucus when they saved him from having the albatross of Obamacare II hung around his neck by Ryan. If he sides with Ryan and the RINOs against the Freedom Caucus, I’m out.

I think Trump made a mistake to trust Ryan, and I'm not happy he did. I'm hoping he'll learn, adjust and take a new approach. I'm not willing yet to throw out the baby with the bathwater over it though...this is just one battle.

20 posted on 03/26/2017 12:19:10 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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