When It Comes to Meddling in the US Election, Was it the UK?

Sic Semper Tyrannis ^ | 3/25/2017 | Publius Tacitus

[AC Beach Patrol]

I learned a long time ago that when you are close to the truth the opposition, if there is any, springs into action and launches a desperate counter attack. That appears to define what happened in the wake of Fox News suspending Judge Andrew Napolitano for the following claim:

that former US President Barack Obama asked British intelligence agency GCHQ to monitor President Donald Trump. . . . Andrew Napolitano, a political commentator and former New Jersey judge, said on Tuesday Obama used GCHQ in order to "make sure there were no American fingerprints."

"Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command - he didn't use the NSA, he didn't use the CIA, he didn't use the FBI and he didn't use the Department of Justice," said Napolitano. "He used GCHQ." Well, the Brits went absolutely bonkers. GCHQ came as close to having a full blown aneurysm as any bureaucratic entity can. "We've made clear to the administration that these claims are ridiculous and they should be ignored and we've received assurances that these allegations will not be repeated," a Downing Street spokesman told reporters.

One of Judge Napolitano's sources apparently was Larry Johnson. However, according to Johnson, the Judge did not accurately report what Johnson had said. According to Mr. Johnson, President Obama did not order anything. Instead, information collected by GCHQ was passed to people in the U.S. intelligence community and then distributed in an unauthorized manner. To deny that GCHQ did not do anything in response to a request from President Obama, but that does not mean that GCHQ (aka General Communication's Headquarters) was passive and doing nothing...

[lavaroise]

Not just the UK.

The French president had only prepared a congratulatory speech for Hillary and not Trump. He had no speech when Trump was elected.

[lavaroise]

NPR...

[Yosemitest]

As far as Trump and their screams of no evidence: they should have not reported the evidence that Trump has, before they backpedalled, claiming that their own reports are "not evidence" .


Pay very close attention to ITEMS #4 and #5:

Found by Mark Levin at Mark Levin PROVES Trump Wiretapping Claims: ‘The Evidence Is Overwhelming’ #ObamaGate
(They went to the FISA, that's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Court not once ... BUT TWICE ! ) :

1. Heat street, November 7, 2016 EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia
“Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

… The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.”


2. The Guardian, Jan 10 2017 John McCain passes dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts to FBI
“ … The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. …

“ … The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, … “


3. McClatchy, JANUARY 18, 2017 FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump
“The FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election, including whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided President-elect Donald Trump, two people familiar with the matter said.

The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said. …”


4. New Your Times, January 19 2017 Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates

“… The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the WIRETAPPED communications had been provided to the White House. …”


5. New York Times, Jan 12 2017 N.S.A. Gets More Latitude to Share Intercepted Communications
“In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies BEFORE APPLYING PRIVACY PROTECTIONS.”


6. New York Times, March 1 2017 Obama Administration Rush To Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking
"In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government.”


7. New York Times, Feb 9 2017 Flynn Is Said to Have Talked to Russians About Sanctions Before Trump Took Office

8. Washington Post, March 2 2017 The Daily 202: Trump’s Russia headache gets worse, as Sessions struggles to spin undisclosed meetings
“ U.S. Investigators have examined contacts Attorney General Sessions had with Russian Officials during the time he was advising Donald Trump’s Campaign. The focus of the U.S. Counter Intelligence Investigation has been on communications between Trump Campaign Officials and Russia. … The inquiry involving Sessions is examining it’s contents while serving as Trump’s Foreign Policy Advisor in the spring and summer of 2016. “


9. The Wall Street Journal, March 2 2017 Investigators Probed Jeff Sessions’ Contacts With Russian Officials
“U.S. investigators have examined contacts Attorney General Jeff Sessions had with Russian officials during the time he was advising Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. ”

Any wonder WHY they want to "Change the Subject" ???

[Robert357]

If it were the Brits or Mexico, then the NSA would have records. I wonder how Deep State NSA is?

[Bellflower]

Hallelujah, God trumped all!!!

[unlearner]

When Obama promised to be the most transparent administration ever, he meant with other people’s information, not his own.

[phoneman08]

Just imagine what would happen to Trump if it were found out that he or his campaign had clandestinely hired a ex British spy to travel to Russia to meet with members of the KGB, compile a fake dossier on Clinton, attempt to disseminate said dossier to the media prior to the election, and finally then enlist a prominent member of the Senate to pass this Russian fake dossier on to law enforcement in an attempt to undermine her presidency.

[Candor7]

According to Mr. Johnson, President Obama did not order anything. Instead, information collected by GCHQ was passed to people in the U.S. intelligence community and then distributed in an unauthorized manner.>>>>>>>>>

That’s the money shot. You can bet that Obama did request the info over the phone.

Quid Pro Quo, who did we surveil for the UK ?

[nuconvert]

Hungary? Check? ?

[Lurkinanloomin]

Mexico has 15 million of its citizens here illegally and many of them voted. That had a bigger impact than any spying.