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To: Owen

Veruca Salt conservatives want it all NOW and are willing to self destruct if they don’t get it.

Realistic conservatives understand how much of a mess this is and are willing to take every step in the right direction possible, even if they hate the current bill.

And with the current cell of RINOs, this may be the best we can do right now.

It sucks, but that’s the way it is.


12 posted on 03/22/2017 9:34:45 AM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Luircin

It is not that I want it all now.

It is that phase 2and 3 are a lie. They cannot get 60 votes. Ever. So whatever passes through reconciliation with 51 Senate votes will be the final product. Period.

Knowing that phase 2 and 3 cannot get 60 votes, I would rather see the Phase 1 bill have everything important now. If this means you cannot use reconciliation and need 60 votes, then I am fine with the bill not passing for now.

Continue on under Obamacare and use the bully pulpit to document soaring preniums and plunging coverage as Obamacare collapses over the next 18 months. See if constituents pressure their Democrat Senators for Obamacare repeal. We only need 9 of them to cross over.

Obamacare will continue its rapid collapse, right into the 2018 elections.

Bring the comprehensive bill with all the elements needed for support by the Conservative Caucus in October 2018, while Dem Senators may be under intense pressure to support the bill.

After the election, we will know how many Dem Senators lost their seats to Republicans. If the GOP retains the Senate, then President Trump has 2 more years to fight for the bill that is supported by the Consrevatives.

If all else fails and the GOP is slated to lose the Senate in 2019, then hold an emergency session and pass RYANCare as it is now.

So we have at least the better part of 2 years to try to get 60 votes for a bill the Conservatives can support, and possibly 4 years if we hold the Senate. Meanwhile RYANCare can always be passed by a 51 vote majority in the Senate in late 2018, if that is the only chance left before the Rats take the Senate.

We should start by shooting for the moon, not start with the absolute worst fix.

Phase 2 and Phase 3 will NEVER get 60 votes. Ever. Especially since RYANCare will fix some things about Obamacare. The commie Dems will be thrilled to see RYANCare pass and then deprive us of all the phase 2and 3 fixes needed to keep it solvent. Then when RYANCcare eventually collapses, the Democrats can honestly sapy the GOP owns it 100% and slaughter them politically. Right now the commie Rats own the Obamacare collapse.

There is no phase 2 pr 3 because we can never get the 60 votes to pass them. Whatever we pass with reconciliation is all there will ever be, and that is not good enough without selling insurance across state lines, heath care savings accounts, the tax credit, etc.


18 posted on 03/22/2017 3:34:16 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.it is hugh and series)
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