Posted on 02/22/2017 9:35:50 AM PST by servo1969
Sums up my feelings. Now watch him make a bunch of money & fame going after conservatives. At least that's my prediction.
CPAC has never been gay friendly. Several years ago they tried to keep the log cabin Republicans out.
FR isn’t gay friendly either so we have all the usual panty twisters on here swallowing the left wing and never Trumper assassination lies hook, line and sinker.
Fact: Milo Yianapoulos is successfully articulating the conservative message to the younger generation in a way that is outrageous and over the top with naughty rhetoric but very effectively outing the progressive agenda as negative and morally bankrupt. On balance I vote for Milo.
What I do know is he absolutely infuriated the left. Must have been a good messenger even though perhaps flawed.
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“This arbitrary and oppressive idea of consent which totally destroys, you know the understanding of many of us have the complexities and subtleties and complicated nature of many relationships.“You know people are messy and complex and actually, in the homosexual world particularly. Some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, that sort of coming of age relationships.
“The relationships with those with older men have helped those young boys discover who they are. And give them security and safety, provide them with love and reliable and sort of a rock. Where they can’t speak to their parents.”
When another person on the podcast interjects to say that sounds like molestation, he makes a joke about child abuse, and argues semantics about the term ‘pedophilia’:
“You’re misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13-years old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. Pedophilia is an attraction to people who don’t have functioning sex organs yet. Who have not gone through puberty. Who are too young to be able to understand. That is not what we are talking about.”Asked to clarify if he’s advocating for these “cross-generational relationships“, he says that he is:
“Yeah I dont mind saying… I don’t mind admitting that. And I think particularly in the gay world and outside the Catholic Church if that is where some of you wanna go with this. I think in the gay World some of the most important enriching and incredibly the… mm … you know life affirming, important shaping relationships very often between younger boys and older men, they can be hugely positive experiences.”
The video: Milo Yiannopoulos - PaulsEgo - TheAmazingAtheist - and More! DPP #193 (begins around 55:45 - language alert)
He's saying, quit clearly, that if a 13 year old is sexually mature, it's not pedophilia (i.e. it's OK) for older men to have a sexual relationship with them.
This way of thinking should never be ok with anybody...let alone with Conservatives, no matter how much he infuriates the left.
Honestly I don’t know and find it all very confusing. What is pedophilia exactly? I’m just not sure. If for instance a 25 year old has sex with a 15 year old, is that pedophilia, or is that “just” statutory rape? My guess, but I could be wrong, pedophilia is having sex with someone 12 and under.
I am unclear what the term “kiddie porn” means. If a person viewed porn of girls that are 17 years old, would they be arrested and convicted of viewing “child porn”?
I don’t know. Maybe its emotion in me, but sometimes I think I rather my child turn out to be serial killers than become gay.
I think that is Milo's stance completely. His flamboyant act is extremely self-deprecating, because he KNOWS he isn't right. He knows traditional morality is best for humanity and espouses that even though he can't quite attain it for himself, and realizes there is a small element of the populace who struggle like he does. He wishes he was straight but as he hasn't been able to overcome his gayness he uses it for maximum triggering, and I love it.
I see your point. Point one is free speech and we NEED all the allies we can get. I don’t care if a person is a holocaust denier or gay like Milo. In fact SOME gay publications have come out supporting gay bashing as a form of free speech.
The second is what he said. I’m still trying to get my mind around that.
Knowing Milo, he'll use it more like a ramp. Yeeeee haaaaaa!
Who on this site or elsewhere every stated such a thing?
You are too good for straw-men, Tax-chick.
“He’s saying, quit clearly, that if a 13 year old is sexually mature, it’s not pedophilia (i.e. it’s OK) for older men to have a sexual relationship with them.”
By definition, it is not pedophilia.
However, it is statutory rape, and sexual maturity is not the guiding standard for statutory rape. The standard is emotional and intellectual maturity.
That is the flaw in his argument. Very often people reach sexual maturity long before they attain emotional or intellectual maturity. The fact that a teenage girl has sprouted T&A doesn’t mean she’s ready to take on a practiced seducer.
Did he say it wasn’t?
Btw. Can’t believe I am defending this guy, but I find his political assasination worrying.
We just had Flynn. Now this?
Who is next?
BTW. Only posting on this site can be enough to get you deep sixed in your life and your career.
In my younger days, I knew a guy who had a long-running sexual relationship with a 13 year old girl. She appeared to enjoy the relationship. Then again, he was 13 too (and so was I)
Well said in #5.
On a personal note, I will pray for him to turn to Jesus and be healed.
He could be healed completely, and this is an absolute truth.
WTF?
In what demented mind could "not pedophilia" equal "it's ok?"
The point is, Breitbart, Bannon and Trump don’t need to be conflated with a guy defending adult men having sex with 13-year-olds.
The distance is a relief.
Try mentioning at your place of employment that you believe homosexual activity is wrong. It’s likely that you’ll quickly be looking for another job.
Did you or anyone you know at any time in your life have sex before marriage or outside marriage? If so you and they are guilty of a death penalty offense.
What we are seeing here is similar to the internal struggle between the conservatives and moderates during the Reagan Administration. However, the stakes are higher, and the battle lines and alliances more complicated. Trump has a core of supporters that are paleo-conservatives outside of the neo-con dominated conservative establishment. The latter group is in a de facto alliance with the Democrats and the MSM to take down, or at least tame, Trump. They are methodically going after those who support Trump's nationalist and anti-establishment supporters, first Flynn, now Yianapoulos, perhaps Steve Bannon or Matt Drudge next.
The analogy to Reagan is important because the moderate wing of the GOP slowly eliminated the staunch conservatives in his administration, such as James Watt and David Stockman, especially after the attempted assassination of the President. The goal of the neo-con wing of the establishment is to do something similar to Trump. Surrounding the President with war hawks, free trade advocates, and compromisers will, in their view, tame someone whom they view as a radical disruptor of the status quo. The liberals are fine with that, because a defanged Trump who will not have achieved his stated goals will be easy to defeat in 2020, at least if they have the good sense not to run Hillary Clinton or someone equally as shrill, like Elizabeth Warren.
“In what demented mind could “not pedophilia” equal “it’s ok?”
Why don’t you ask the author of that statement? I only quoted it for the purpose of commenting on it.
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