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1 posted on 02/11/2017 9:01:54 PM PST by jfd1776
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Nicely written, interesting to read. Only thing is he pulls his punch by not naming the source of government created emissions requirements or social security. I was taught by the grandaddy of leftists at a top University that social security as conceived during FDR's administration is a Marxist program of income redistribution.

Until editorialists name the actual source of government regulation of the economy, they are wasting their time.

“From each according to his ability to each according to his need” was not the Founders’ moral imperative.

2 posted on 02/11/2017 9:22:44 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: Rewrite all schoolbooks K-12!)
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Di Leo paints with a broad brush. A little more detail.

Illinois EPA ordered the last two Chicago auto emissions testing locations closed by end of 2016.
Chicago drivers will have to go elsewhere (suburbs).

In Illinois
New cars get a 4 year break from emissions testing.
Cars older than 4 years get tested every other year.
Cars older than 1996 get a break from emissions testing.
I agree with the writer that somewhere down the road, this test will be eliminated - probably later rather than sooner be cause the loony left will scream about VW and their emissions scam, nevermind that it was diesels only(see any nuke plants built lately ?)

Chicago’s Mayor Richard j Daley had Chicago become the first big city to test for auto emissions. Originally, the test was voluntary.

Believe it or not, cash for clunkers pulled a lot of old cars off the road ( not that they wouldn’t be gone by now anyway, without cash for clunkers).
We’re just not seeing many 1988 sentras for sale for 500 bucks on a street corner anymore.


3 posted on 02/11/2017 9:39:16 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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We have something like 31 state governments, no time like the present.


4 posted on 02/11/2017 9:45:58 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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Tbe myth is that older cars are tested.

Anything around 1996 or older, in our state, are not tested because they know they will fail, and assume they are a very small % of cars on the road.

Yet there are tons of the on the road, and in the inner cities there are lots of them.


6 posted on 02/11/2017 10:10:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I have many opinions on this topic. But my main one is that cars in general are a horrible burden on the working poor. If we designed our cities better and focused on educating motorists I believe alternative transportation would be the best solution for them.

I personally cycle commute in part to conserve the little income I do have. I do have a vehicle but I try to minimize the mileage to around 3000 a year.

Focusing on education and effective public transportation would alleviate the “requirement” that we all have a motor vehicle.


7 posted on 02/11/2017 10:33:50 PM PST by pennyfarmer (A conservative also conserves his resources.)
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I have many opinions on this topic. But my main one is that cars in general are a horrible burden on the working poor. If we designed our cities better and focused on educating motorists I believe alternative transportation would be the best solution for them.

I personally cycle commute in part to conserve the little income I do have. I do have a vehicle but I try to minimize the mileage to around 3000 a year.

Focusing on education and effective public transportation would alleviate the “requirement” that we all have a motor vehicle.


8 posted on 02/11/2017 10:33:53 PM PST by pennyfarmer (A conservative also conserves his resources.)
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Friend drove a 1974 Chevy which had the hood replaced with one from a junkyard, due to collision damage. The hood was from a later model which came with a catalytic convertor (his car did not). When he took it in for emissions, a worker saw a sticker on the underside of the hood which referred to the non-existent catalytic convertor, and failed the test for lack of same. Notwithstanding that the form he printed out with verbiage saying the test failed for lack of convertor indicated “N/A” in the catalytic convertor test category for that year model of his car. And also notwithstanding the obvious difference in paint color on the underside of the hood. When friend complained to emissions contractor he was repeatedly told, as he worked his way up the management chain, that there was nothing they could do because the failure was “already entered in the system” and at that point it becomes a matter of state law that the car cannot receive an emissions certification until the failed condition is “passed”. It was some time ago but I believe he got the failure waived for one year and ended up getting rid of the car because he couldn’t get a waiver again and it wasn’t worth the cost of adding a cat convertor.

Friend was confident none of the people working for the contractor company, including the managers, had IQs above 80, nor any problem-solving skills whatever.

Moral of the story is, when dealing with the intellectually challenged who nonetheless have power to mess up your life, never present them with information the least bit confusing or contradictory, because if the process gets derailed they won’t have the skills to fix it, and thus you are screwed.


11 posted on 02/12/2017 3:09:46 AM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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In the People’s Republic of New Jersey you can PASS the emission test and STILL fail if the Check Engine Light is on.


12 posted on 02/12/2017 4:59:59 AM PST by Renegade
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Cars = freedom.

Anything the government (at any level) does to limit people’s ability to transport themselves for purposes of sustaining their existence or the pursuit of happiness, cuts into that freedom.

Liberal fascists want nothing more than to force people into public transportation, and eventually into self-driving cars as the technology matures. That will give them the ability to track and control people’s movements, something every tyrant dreams of.

President Trump has already put a hold on regulations that required car makers to install technology that allowed certain parameters of a car’s operation to be transmitted to “nearby vehicles”.

And, as with “emissions testing”, the official justification is always safety. Every incursion into our transportational and environmental liberty is blessed with fictional government estimates of “lives saved”.


13 posted on 02/12/2017 5:23:03 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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In the meanwhile the government exempts their own vehicles like mail trucks.

It’s all B.S. harassment.
It needs to go.


14 posted on 02/12/2017 5:26:21 AM PST by Enlightened1
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Reminds me of the clown on the California Air Resources Board (CARB) who had a fake PhD:

http://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/05/carb-scandal-also-shames-california-media/


16 posted on 02/12/2017 8:39:06 AM PST by utax
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