Posted on 01/24/2017 12:28:31 PM PST by Sean_Anthony
Oh please, please, please...
The dream is alive! According to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll, there are now more Californians than ever who support the idea of seceding from the United States. Dubbed the “Calexit” movement, the goal is to make California its own country, thus bestowing upon the world a happy, prosperous, California-free, America where it will be virtually impossible to elect a Democrat President.
Cali would have to couple secession with instantly sealed borders somehow to prevent anyone from leaving. As a seperate “nation” the coastal industries of the superrich would not have much of a domestic market for their wares and anything exported to the US would be subject to trade restrictions and whatever tariffs the US imposes. Their industries would probably be lining up to move either to Asia or to the newly deregulated and tax reduced US.
Not having to bail out California's failed fiscal system will be a blessing. Having California have to pay the full freight for importing custom goods (aka, appliances that meet California created energy standards, cars that meet California air pollution requirements, firearms that meet California crazy requirements.
These jerkoffs should read about what happened in Georgia in the Fall of 1864 and South Carolina in early 1865.
Cool.
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How can I help? Can I contribute somewhere? You know of thew supposed problems of secession is how to divvy up California’s portion of the national debt. It would be kind of like dinning with your drunken brother in law and having to pay for his bar tab because “Let’s divide it up evenly.” That always bites me because I don’t drink but in this case I say let California go and forget their part of the national debt because we’ll make it back in a few years selling them things they can’t make in a socialist country. Toilet paper comes to mind.
Great list. Thanks :)
Its water, as well.
California as a country would share the river as a mutual border with the US. As national nitty on an international waterway they can claim half the water and it would be subject to international agreement. There is no reason Cal would lose all of the water rights because it became a country.
Now if you want to build another dam and stop the flow of the river and flood the grand canyon then you could keep the water in the US.
If Electoral Votes are assigned by Congressional District (vote majority in each district), we would have a true reflection of voters’ choice, rather than the statewide “winner take all” scenario we currently have.
“In a winner take all” situation large block of votes in urban centers where voter fraud is easily conducted swings entire states to one candidate. Just look at Detroit where ballots were scanned more than once, and Broward County, Florida, where they were caught filling in blank absentee ballots.
If Electoral Votes were assigned by Congressional District (One Electoral Vote per Congressional District and one for each Senator, which is was was intended), we would never have had Obama for a second term, and probably would never have had him for his first term.
Currently Trump would have won by more than 306 Electoral Votes.
Think of California. Hillary would not have all 55 Electoral Votes. The voters in some Congressional District predominately voted for Trump. It was only the massive illegal vote in Southern California that gave all Electoral Votes to Hillary.
So a Constitutional Amendment requiring Electoral votes to be assigned by the majority vote in each Congressional District would solve a whole lot of problems we currently have. I believe this is more inline with the intent of our Founding Fathers when they established our American Republic. Political parties with the winner take all system perverts the will of the people. This amendment, along with the repeal of the 17th Amendment, would bring us back to the Republic our Founding Fathers intended.
That being said, if California goes ahead with its plans the following should apply:
Unless California’s citizens renounce their US citizenship, all US residents will retain their US citizenship, despite California no longer being a part of the US.
The US should stipulate that if it allows the vote for secession to take place in California, and the vote succeeds, the following four stipulations must occur.
One, if the vote fails, California will be split into a minimum of four states, with Jefferson being the northern most.
Two, once a votes takes place, only those Congressional Districts, where a majority of voters, vote for secession, will in fact secede. All other Congressional Districts will remain part of the US.
Three, all US citizens living in the seceding districts be given the choice, before secession becomes final, to migrate from those districts, and in so doing, receive just compensation at fair market value, from the state of California, for their property. This would include an additional $100,000 payment for each family member, to compensate for the mental anguish, for having to move.
Four, those choosing to remain would lose their US citizenship permanently.
Oil was not civilization’s lifeblood back then.
It is now. And that’s why Calif can’t do it. Food can’t move without oil and they would not be able to feed their cities.
Kalifornia's common border along the river starts effectively at Davis Dam in Bullhead City/Laughlin and runs along the Arizona border through Yuma into Mexico. That is a very small portion of the river with almost none of the watershed.
The best they could try to do is negotiate half of Arizona's allotment using your argument. That would get them 8.5% of the water a huge decrease from the 27% they have through interstate agreement. That can't turn out well for them any way you look at it.
The other states and Mexico would still control either by treaty or agreement almost all of the water from the source to the common border. They can do whatever they want with that water and kalifornia can't do squat about it.
well IMO the best they can does 27% and maintain the current allotment as a sovereign state or have a war over the river.
They need to start talking about how their Western Provinces want to secede from Canada too, but for different reasons.
I see no alternative to California leaving. Its already a third world leftist cesspool and its best to separate before they infect the rest of our country.
Let the social justice warriors and illegals all move to the new country of Kalifornia and leave the rest of us alone.
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