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The Bizarre Trump Dossier: And who it actually harms.
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 11, 2017 | Lee Smith

Posted on 01/11/2017 9:20:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In his first press conference since being elected president, Donald Trump thanked the media. He praised news outfits that didn't publish a story about a document that describes alleged Russian efforts to compromise him, even though many of those news organizations had the story for months and held on to it. The two press outfits that did publish the story, CNN and BuzzFeed, got whipped by the president-elect. Trump called them "fake news" and refused to take questions from reporters representing their organizations.

You almost have to wonder, though, if he shouldn't be going easy on them, especially BuzzFeed, which posted the original document in its entirety "so that Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government." The report is so bizarre and incoherent that it has the effect of undermining the accusations that Trump has unsavory ties with Russia.

For instance, the document starts with a "summary" section paragraph laying out the very premise of the report: that Trump is a Russian stooge. Here's how the summary opens:

Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions within the Western alliance.

"For at least five years"—in other words, starting no later than 2011, Vladimir Putin believed that the host of "The Apprentice" was the linchpin holding together NATO. You see, Putin has special insight not only into Trump but also the American electorate. Unlike most every other expert who handicapped the 2016 elections, and gave Trump zero chance of victory, Putin knew Trump would win—and he knew it five years ago.

The Russians have denied the Trump story. No wonder they have! It makes the Moscow government look buffoonish. For instance, the document reports that the head of the Russian presidential administration, Sergei Ivanov, was eager to target American audiences for influence operations—in particular "educated American youth." This makes current-day Kremlin operatives sound exactly like TV movie versions of 1960s Kremlin operatives. Time-tested way to influence 'educated American youth,' Comrade Ivanov, is through Beach Boys and Hoola-Hoop...

Who does the report really damage? British intelligence. The author of the document is reportedly a former MI6 officer who now draws a paycheck from the private sector. The report claims that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen went to Prague to talk to Putin operatives—but it now appears that it was a different Michael Cohen who visited Prague. The U.S. intelligence community, CNN reported, has found the U.K. source to be credible in the past—credible except, it seems, when it comes to niggling details like identities.

What about the real dirty stuff, the compromising material the Russians are supposed to be hanging over Trump's head? A really corrupt business deal with the Russians, tied to Putin himself or one of his many circles might spell trouble for the next commander-in-chief, but the report confirms Trump's contention that he has no business deals in Russia.

Well, it does say he hired some prostitutes from the FSB stable to urinate on a hotel bed where Barack Obama once slept. Trump says no way. "I'm also very much of a germophobe," the president-elect said today at the press conference. "Believe me."

But do the Russians actually have some nasty stuff on Trump? Probably. Is it worse than what the New York Post has been digging up for more than three decades on a Manhattan celebrity billionaire once referred to as The Donald? Probably not. Is it worse than what, say, Israeli or Turkish intelligence or a handful of other clandestine services almost surely has on half of the Kremlin, likely including Putin himself? Doubtful.

That's one of the things intelligence services are supposed to do—dig up dirt on foreign big-wigs to deter their governments from publishing dirt their intelligence services have on your grandees. Is it also the job of intelligence services to leak material regarding their own officials in order to compromise the integrity of its own political process? Only if you're a third-world backwater or a hard security regime like Putin's Russia, which uses torture and political assassination as a matter of policy. It's not supposed to happen in liberal democracies.

No one can say with confidence where the dossier BuzzFeed published originated, and through which hands it has passed before it shamefully saw the light of day. Trump suspects the American intelligence community. Let's hope he's wrong about that.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: intelligence; putin; russia; trump
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1 posted on 01/11/2017 9:20:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And of course the fact that the story is known to be a complete setup, a troll, a fake, catfish bait is not part of this story.


2 posted on 01/11/2017 9:27:38 PM PST by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump suspects the American intelligence community.

Well, who else? If you want to call that a "community" ... after eight years ...

3 posted on 01/11/2017 9:29:46 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would make three observations:

1. Just about every single big-wig in DC...has a KGB dossier. That includes John McCain himself...President Obama...Hillary Clinton...and even Bill Clinton.

2. The odds of a KGB dossier being ‘loaned’ out? Zero percent chance. So, this is a fake dossier.

3. The only person harmed by this dossier talk...is the guy who gave it to the US authorities...McCain. I think he has some issues which have to be explained, and it might be finally time to retire. If he sticks around, there are literally thousands of people who will try to approach him with other fake dossiers and he’ll end up as the GOP dossier-guy.


4 posted on 01/11/2017 9:32:32 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Follow the money. NBC owns Buzzfeed.


5 posted on 01/11/2017 9:36:52 PM PST by Diogenez (The Media: PR Machine for the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Twenty-four hours ago the dossier was "devastating," now it's "bizarre."

Progress.

Not tired of winning. MAGA.

6 posted on 01/11/2017 9:39:27 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: pepsionice

Although my job entailed going to the DMZ every now and then I had never taken the formal tour of the Joint Security Area run out of the recreation center until I'd been there for awhile. Being in military intelligence I could not wear my M.I. brass or nametag and borrowed "unassigned" brass from a sergeant major. When I got there a North Korean guard called to me by my name.

7 posted on 01/11/2017 9:43:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: pepsionice

Remember, every major intelligence agency on Earth has dossiers on all major political and business leaders. You know the likes of Mark Zuckerberg has compiled dossiers at both the Russian FSB and Chinese Ministry of State Security.


8 posted on 01/11/2017 9:46:02 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From Drudge Report :

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax


9 posted on 01/11/2017 9:48:13 PM PST by hoosiermama (It is time to believe in the future: Time to believe in each other: Time to believe in AMERICA ! DT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You almost have to wonder, though, if he shouldn't be going easy on them, especially BuzzFeed, which posted the original document in its entirety "so that Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government." The report is so bizarre and incoherent that it has the effect of undermining the accusations that Trump has unsavory ties with Russia.

I do blame CNN more than BuzzFeed. CNN was taking the document seriously.

10 posted on 01/11/2017 9:59:01 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Diogenez

>> Follow the money. NBC owns Buzzfeed.

NBC Universal and Comcast.

If you’re a Comcast customer, watch your wallet.


11 posted on 01/11/2017 10:04:11 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: pepsionice

McStain,,,, Senile Dementia


12 posted on 01/11/2017 10:18:26 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s an interesting story. Were you shocked? Surprised?


13 posted on 01/11/2017 10:27:45 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

For the first few seconds. But you have to guess that at least 1 out of 10 Koreans working on my installation probably provided information in exchange for money back when it was a very poor country.


14 posted on 01/11/2017 10:38:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the real reason this story is being beaten to death so hard is that it contains a French word which sounds very sophisticated. Who even says “dossier” anyway? When the Clintons stole the FBI files, weren’t they “dossiers”? But nobody called them that then because it would sound like espionage, so they just left them as “files”.


15 posted on 01/11/2017 10:47:33 PM PST by webheart (All comments are considered to be sarcasm unless otherwise noted.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"No one can say with confidence where the dossier BuzzFeed published originated..."

The Weakly Standard needs to catch up. It's now well understood that the 'report' was a hoax perpetrated by a 4Chan user.

16 posted on 01/11/2017 10:48:53 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Exactly. They know our guys, sometimes very well. We know their guys, sometimes better than their own mothers. Even allies have files on each other (wasn't it the Obama administration that was tapping German politicians?)

Russia is not a White Hat. Not by any measure. However, the level that Liberals have gone to to blame Russia for Hillary's November loss is pathetic. Ludicrous. Moreover, it hurts them. It prevents them from analyzing why they lost, and rather than having a deep think they have simply decided to blame Russia, the FBI and a convoluted conspiracy to steal the US election. That will hurt the Democrats greatly as it blinds them from what went wrong and how they can fix it. It is not myopia ...it is straight blindness.

17 posted on 01/11/2017 11:10:07 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I knew this story was fake when I heard it. Barack and Michelle don’t sleep in the same bed!


18 posted on 01/11/2017 11:11:58 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

McStain.....Senile Dementia

McStain= Isis’ Butt Boy


19 posted on 01/12/2017 12:17:49 AM PST by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

JOHN MCCAIN and CNN have been DESTROYED!!! Rick Wilson was a nothingburger before and now he is just TOAST!


20 posted on 01/12/2017 1:42:09 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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