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Bret Baier Struggles to Delegitimize Obama Birth Certificate Findingsā€¦(Sheriff Arpaio)
The Post & Email ^ | January 3, 2017 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 01/05/2017 8:13:58 AM PST by Seizethecarp

On Monday night’s edition of Fox News’s “Special Report,” host Bret Baier reported that former Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph Arpaio was “off the job tonight,”...Fox News has maintained a complete blackout of the investigation, launched in August 2011.

As with the Associated Press and other mainstream outlets, Baier did not provide any information from the final presser on December 15 revealing that two document examiners from two different disciplines arrived at the same conclusion: that the anomalies found in the Obama birth certificate image which exactly replicate nine items from a long-form birth certificate belonging to a woman born in Hawaii the same month and at the same hospital claimed by Obama could not have been reproduced by chance.

Baier instead reported that “the president and the White House” called the posse’s findings “ridiculous,” even though neither Obama nor the White House has issued a public response to the conclusions reached by investigators. Baier then reiterated that President-Elect Donald Trump, who Baier said “launched his own investigation” into the birth certificate image, “has said the president was born in the United States.”

Obama’s birthplace has never entered into the investigation, but the crime of forgery of government documents has.

A fourth item reported by Baier is that Arpaio was “charged with a crime” before he left office Without providing any context.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; bc; birthers; fauxpotus; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamabio; sheriffarpaio
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To: DoodleDawg
So you’re saying there is no positive evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was in HI at the time of the birth?

And none that she wasn't.

There is some evidence that she wasn't. Firstly, the evidence indicating she was in Seattle Washington in mid to late august with an infant child. Back when this issue was being heavily discussed, some freepers looked up the flight schedules and rules for all commercial traffic to and from Hawaii in 1961.

The rules indicated you could not fly with an infant as young as Barrack. (14-15 days old)

Barack Obama Sr had written in one of his letters that their original intention was to put Barry up for adoption. Vancouver had a well known home for unwed mothers at the time, plus free Canadian healthcare was available.

That a young girl would be "sent away" to have an embarrassing pregnancy (young white girl impregnated by a black man in 1960?) was not at all unusual in this era.

Stanley Ann's Aunt (Eleanor Dunham Berkebile) lived in Canada in 1959, (her children are buried there.) and later she lived in Blaine Washington. (Right on the Canadian Border)

That a young woman was sent to live with her Aunt makes a lot more sense than that she chose to leave her family's home to go live by herself right after her first child was born. Also there was the problem of getting a commercial flight with a 15 day old infant.

The story they told us doesn't make as much sense as the alternative that she was sent away to have the baby, and then decided to keep him.

61 posted on 01/05/2017 12:02:56 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fantasywriter

But if the BC was fake, why would the address be considered authentic?


62 posted on 01/05/2017 12:04:17 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: editor-surveyor
All that has been presented was crafted in 2007-2008.

Has someone discovered a print copy of those two Hawaiian newspapers which were published in 1961?

If not, there is very little basis for claiming that those notices were not in those newspapers in 1961.

63 posted on 01/05/2017 12:05:30 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

And something tells us that Auntie Eleanor likely up and died at the time Barry began to ascend in politics, right?

You can’t interview her to hear if she even knew there ever was some Hawaiin Ivy League lawyer senator nephew.

Guarantee it! She’s dead.


64 posted on 01/05/2017 12:20:20 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Not exactly sure what you’re asking. The address was bogus, in the sense that Stanley Ann wasn’t living there. I’ve had Obots tell me that blank on the birth certificate is for, ‘an old address where you once lived, and will never live again.’ Never bought it. That blank was for the person’s current address, and Stanley Ann didn’t have one...at least not in HI.


65 posted on 01/05/2017 12:21:38 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: DiogenesLamp

So predictable, she’s ashes. 2003

Born June 28, 1932, in Wichita, she was the daughter of Ralph Waldo and Martha Mae (Stonehouse) Dunham. She retired from civil service as an executive secretary.

Mrs. Berkebile enjoyed jewelry, plants and smoking! She moved here six months ago from Washington state.

She is survived by her children Teresea M. Berkebile of Castle Rock, Ralph D. Berkebile and his wife, Jacque, of California and Lorrie A. Berkebile of Alaska; sister Virginia Goeldner and her husband, Cecil of Arkansas; a half-brother, Ralph Dunham; and two grandchildren, Aaron and Maureen.


66 posted on 01/05/2017 12:28:45 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Fantasywriter

I meant, how was it ever verified to be the Dunham’s actual address.

Title, lease, Polk directory? What places them at that specific address other than the BC or Ayers?

see PM


67 posted on 01/05/2017 12:32:26 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Fantasywriter; BlueMondaySkipper
Cindy said Stanley Ann was not residing at that house during or after her pregnancy.

That would have been a better explanation.

This is what I read above.

When Stanley Ann stayed there, she slept in the hall (this is documented).
David Maraniss interviewed one of the residents of the house who lived there during the time of Stanley Ann’s pregnancy. Cindy Pratt said SA was not residing there at the time. Not during the pregnancy, and not after.
It sounds like she was there but then she wasn't....

68 posted on 01/05/2017 12:33:20 PM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

"She was the great aunt of President Barack Obama through her brother Stanley Armour Dunham. "

Children:
Michael Philip Berkebile (1959 - 1959)*
Stephen Jerome Berkebile (1959 - 1959)*

Buried in Canada in 1959.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=34618044

69 posted on 01/05/2017 12:35:40 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: GregNH

Stanley Ann did live at that address in ‘60. She’s listed in Polk with that address, as a student.


70 posted on 01/05/2017 12:42:07 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; Fantasywriter

Polk directory for Honolulu 1961 lists that address, so it existed.

Polk directory was a reverse phone book as it were, listed people by last name.


71 posted on 01/05/2017 12:52:04 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Fantasywriter

Entering the Cindy Pratt name and Obama, Gramps cover appears blown. But we are to believe the Dunhams lived with the ‘boss’s’ family.

SPECIAL REPORT. Stanley Dunham’s CIA shell company in Hawaii: a furniture store

WMR has learned from a reliable source that Stanley Dunham, Barack Obama’s grandfather, did not work as a manager at a furniture store in Honolulu after moving there from Seattle but had non-official CIA cover status with the “furniture store,” which was actually a CIA shell company cover.

Dunham officially worked as a manager for Pratt furniture store in Honolulu seeking a better furniture store opportunity after working at Doces Majestic Furniture Company and Standard-Grunbaum Furniture store in Seattle. Previously, Dunham had worked at J.G. Paris furniture store in Ponca City, Oklahoma.

However, there are no records that Pratt Furniture was an actual legitimate retail outlet in Honolulu...........

On August 19, 2010, WMR reported: “What is officially known about Stanley Armour Dunham is that he served with the 9th Air Force in Britain and France prior to and after the D-Day invasion. After the war, Dunham and his wife, Madelyn and his daughter Stanley Ann — Obama’s mother — moved to Berkeley, California; El Dorado, Kansas; Seattle; and Honolulu. Armour Dunham is said to have worked for a series of furniture stores.”

There is a “Pratt’s” in Kailua Kona on the island of Hawaii that sells furniture and kitchenware but the store listed as Dunham’s employer is “Pratt Furniture Company” in Honolulu. There is a Pratt Furniture store in Pratt, Kansas. .... Pratt Furniture in Pratt, Kansas is not a chain and did not have a branch in Honolulu. However, Pratt lies about 75 miles due west of Wichita on U.S. Highway 54.

http://www.angelgroup.org/articles/533-obamas-hawaii-connection The rest of the article is mainly about Wayne Madsen and the see-eye-aye.


72 posted on 01/05/2017 12:56:23 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: WildHighlander57

You’re saying the Polk directory lists her there for one year- only 1960.

Did it list the parents living there for some period of years.


73 posted on 01/05/2017 1:07:17 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: WildHighlander57

WND turned this up six years ago;

...WND can find no listing in the Polk directories for 1961-1962 that document Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. ever lived at the same address.

A search of that edition of the directory indicates 6085 Kalanianaole Highway was being rented by the grandparents. Madelyn L. Dunham is listed as a loan interviewer and escrow agent at the Bank of Hawaii and Stanley A. Dunham is listed as a manager with Pratt Furniture.

image: http://www.wnd.com/images/090818dunhamgrandparents.JPG
Polk listing for Stanley and Madelyn Dunham

In a separate listing, Obama’s mother is identified as a student living at the 6085 Kalanianaole Highway address; Barack H. Obama, her husband, is listed as a student living at a separate address, closer to the University of Hawaii at Manoa.
image: http://www.wnd.com/images/100106annobamalisting.JPG


74 posted on 01/05/2017 1:40:52 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: GregNH; Fantasywriter

So much for David Maraniss and his diligent research, LOL. The Pratt family that he interviewed did not live there at the time of the not-so-magnificent birth.

In a previous WND report, too, an investigator who actually visited the address cited in 1961 expressed doubt about its authenticity. The affidavit from Jorge Baro was made available online.

Baro was hired by WND to investigate issues related to Obama’s birth in Hawaii and the documents an interview his staff conducted with Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 Kalanianaole Highway...before Obama was born.

The affadivit was at the center of a federal lawsuit...... [on NBC status]

Baro is the in-house senior investigator for Elite Legal Services, LLC, in Royal Palm Beach, Fla. In Hawaii, WND was able to locate...microfilm ...The announcement...“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

Arakaki told Baro’s investigators she had no recollection of Obama being born or of the family living next door having a black child born to a white mother.

Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu ..... to track down residents back to 1961. Baro’s investigators were unable to locate any current or past resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or his family living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser announcement. Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to examine files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually placed the ad.

According to Baro’s affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed she was a neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her current residence of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the present. Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, <-——not on Kalanianaole Highway.

Baro was able to determine the previous owners of the residence at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway – the alleged address of Obama’s parents when he was born -—–>>> were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge, both of whom are deceased.-snip-

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2009/07/104678/#BQi2pSEpvwAjbfzF.99

NO PRATTS! Why didn’t David Maraniss interview the family whom was actually living there??

Maraniss is purely an Obot and interviewed the ‘cover’ people of a non-existent Hawaiian Pratt furniture store. How funny is that. The Maraniss book is pure rubbish.

Anyone can have their mail sent to an address and it landed in the Polk directory, it’s as simple as that.

No one would believe that the owner of the furniture store, his wife and his children and the Dunham couple and their daughter were sharing a 3/1 bungalow house. It’s sounds like the Dunhams lived in Waikiki in the condo and this was the address they selected to use for the book or the BC faux announcement.


75 posted on 01/05/2017 2:12:02 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Fantasywriter
I don't recall seeing her name listed in a Polk in HI, ever!
76 posted on 01/05/2017 2:16:06 PM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

And Professor Lefforge who lived at the birth-house is tied to the U. of Chicago as well as U. Hawaii.

And believe it or not, his name lands back to FR research in 2008

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2150358/posts?page=36;q=1


77 posted on 01/05/2017 2:41:52 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“Of the Amer-Asian children born to servicemen from the Koren War and the Vietnam War, very few, less than 20% have been granted US citizenship of those who apply. How is it possible for Ted Cruz to be considered a natural born citizen when those children born to Americans serving in the military can’t even get US citizenship? Their claim to US citizenship is much stronger than Cruz’s.”

Back in 2009, the 9th Circuit appears to me, on short notice, to have conspired to inoculate Barry from any danger that he be found to have been born in Kenya when Orly Taitz showed up in a CA federal court with a purported Kenyan BC.

Taitz was threatening to gain discovery of Barry’s alleged BC in the Hawaii archive!

In my opinion, lawyers in Los Angeles friendly to Barry rushed to get a case into the 9th circuit record that would legitimate Barry as a natural born citizen even if his mom gave birth in Kenya.

Here is my vanity post on the case that ultimately resulted from the efforts of those lawyers:

“Obama cites US v Marguet-Pillado. Dicta implies Obama eligible even if born in Kenya (vanity)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2857598/posts


78 posted on 01/05/2017 3:04:45 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

You’re probably correct. They were playing any and every angle that they could to make him legal. There’s a lot to review there , but for the moment this sure DQ’s Teddy.

“Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother:

“A person born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 309(c) of the INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person’s birth and if the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person’s birth. The mother must be genetically related to the person in order to transmit U.S. citizenship.”

All he’s got is genetically related. She was living North of the border for the years prior to birth, daddy never divorced his first wife in TX. USA does not recognize polygamous marriage. Bigamy is a crime in every state. Oh, and the important one, both parents had become Canadians as demonstrated by the voting rolls.

Geez, Republicans wanted very badly to run Arnold, what should we expect, LOL.


79 posted on 01/05/2017 3:23:21 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I regard Wayne Madsen as a conspiracy sensationalist, and I don’t believe anything he writes, frankly.

He is a disinformation agent for himself or someone else, IMO.

Somehow he was commissioned as a Navy officer even though his grandmother was deported by the FBI for being a raging communist!

Barry’s grandfather had a 500 page FBI file and was best buddies with Frank Marshall Davis. If anything, they were coordinating with the KGB, not the CIA!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen

Madsen was born on April 28, 1954 in Ridley Park, Pennsylvania, to an American mother and a Danish mariner. His grandmother, who emigrated to the U.S. with his father after World War II, was Victoria Madsen, a Danish communist party official.[11][12] In the 1950s, Victoria was deported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Madsen attended the University of Mississippi, where he joined the Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps.[


80 posted on 01/05/2017 4:15:49 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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