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Strike Back at Californicating Enviros & AstroTurf Grocers - Get Bags in Produce
Freep | 12/27/2016 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 12/27/2016 4:50:11 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

Bags in the Produce section -- it was overlooked when the phoney AstroTurf coalition between greedy California Grocers & hairbrained Enviros convinced the dope California electorate they would Save the Planet by charging everyone 10¢ for bags, or $4 for reusables.

Just go over to the produce section to get enough bags to take home your stuff.

But please keep all bags away from dopes.



TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bags; california; dope
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Cannabis smoking 'permanently lowers IQ'
  Teenagers who regularly smoke cannabis are putting themselves at risk of permanently damaging their intelligence, according to a landmark study.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9426205/Cannabis-smoking-permanently-lowers-IQ.html

Researchers found persistent users of the drug, who started smoking it at school, had lower IQ scores as adults.

They were also significantly more likely to have attention and memory problems in later life, than their peers who abstained.

Furthermore, those who started as teenagers and used it heavily, but quit as adults, did not regain their full mental powers, found academics at King’s College London and Duke University in the US.

They looked at data from over 1,000 people from Dunedin in New Zealand, who have been followed through their lives since being born in 1972 or 1973.

Participants were asked about cannabis usage when they were 18, 21, 26, 32 and 38. Their IQ was tested at 13 and 38. In addition, each nominated a close friend or family member, who was asked about attention and memory problems.

About one in 20 admitted to starting cannabis use before the age of 18, while a further one in 10 took up the habit in the early or mid 20s.

Professor Terrie Moffitt, of KCL’s Institute of Psychiatry, who contributed to the study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, said “persistent users” who started as teenagers suffered a drop of eight IQ points at the age of 38, compared to when they were 13.

Persistent users meant those who used it during at least three of the ages from 18 to 38, and who said at each occasion they were smoking it on at least four days a week.

She said: “Adolescent-onset cannabis users, but not adult-onset cannabis users, showed marked IQ decline from childhood to adulthood.

“For example, individuals who started using cannabis in adolescence and used it for years thereafter showed an average eight-point IQ decline.

“Quitting or reducing cannabis use did not appear to fully restore intellectual functioning among adolescent-onset former persistent cannabis users,” she said.

Although eight points did not sound much, it was not trivial, she warned.

It meant that an average person dropped far down the intelligence rankings, so that instead of 50 per cent of the population being more intelligent than them, 71 per cent were.

“Research has shown that IQ is a strong determinant of a person’s access to a college education, their lifelong total income, their access to a good job, their performance on the job, their tendency to develop heart disease, Alzheimer’s disease, and even early death,” she said.

“Individuals who lose eight IQ points in their teens and 20s may be disadvantaged, relative to their same-age peers, in most of the important aspects of life and for years to come.”

The cognitive abilities of the 10 per cent of people who started in their 20s - who could loosely be classed as college smokers - also suffered while they were still smoking.

However, if they gave up at least a year before their IQ test at 38, their intelligence recovered, suggesting their brains were more resilient and bounced back.

Prof Moffitt said adolescent brains appeared "more vulnerable to damage and disruption" from cannabis than those of fully mature adults.

Reliable figures on cannabis usage among today’s British teens and twentysomethings are hard to come by.

But Prof Moffitt said there was growing concern in the US that cannabis was increasingly being seen as a safe alternative to tobacco.

“This is the first year that more secondary school students in the US are using cannabis than tobacco, according to the Monitoring the Future project at the University of Michigan,” she noted.

“Fewer now think cannabis is damaging than tobacco. But cannabis is harmful for the very young.”

1 posted on 12/27/2016 4:50:11 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
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To: CharlesOConnell

Is this a proposal or has it already passed into law in California?


2 posted on 12/27/2016 5:02:43 AM PST by Blennos ( As)
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To: CharlesOConnell
cannabis smoking lowers IQ

Not to worry. If they're smoking it they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer anyway. does it really matter if they're 80 or 75?

3 posted on 12/27/2016 5:11:55 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: CharlesOConnell

What? You don’t have one of these boxes in the trunk of your car?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0025W9ALG/

Best part is handing a stack of brand new bags to the bagger to bag your items, they look almost with glee at bags they actually understand.


4 posted on 12/27/2016 5:20:32 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Blennos
Proposed, passed by the state, signed by the governor, challenged, placed before the voters and alas approved, mostly because of Los Angeles and San Francisco counties. (Many cities in the state already banned such bags, so for them, this wasn't even a way to get out of the bag bans.)

Of course, in the same election, they also approved recreational marijuana sales.

5 posted on 12/27/2016 5:24:08 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

I am trying to figure out how to convince my bank to make my debit card look like an EBT card, then I won’t have to pay for bags.


6 posted on 12/27/2016 5:33:34 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: kingu

I’ve been recycling the bags for years as small trash bags for the bathrooms. Or smelly food waste to take to the big can. I make my own re-usable cloth bags, their plastic ones come from China and could have lead in them. And I can make the sizes I need and quilt the ones for the dairy stuff. 15 mins and a new bag is made that can be washed and are strong.


7 posted on 12/27/2016 5:36:45 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: Merry CHRISTmas, Happy Birthday JESUS CHRIST, suck it up buttercup you lost)
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To: kingu

When are they going after all of the throw away diapers they take 500 yrs in the landfill to disintegrate.


8 posted on 12/27/2016 5:38:11 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: Merry CHRISTmas, Happy Birthday JESUS CHRIST, suck it up buttercup you lost)
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To: CharlesOConnell

We live in the Great Plains but still spend part of the winter at our ranch in CA. We ‘import’ our single use bags. The whole thing is so stupid. If CA were smart (yeah I know), they would have let us keep the bags, imposed a 1c tax on each one and if you didn’t want to pay the tax - you brought your own bags. The state could have been in the black in less than 1 year, but no the Nazis are enforcing their virtue seeking on us.


9 posted on 12/27/2016 5:39:02 AM PST by reaganaut (I'm just a historian specializing in religion...)
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To: kingu

Thank you, Kingu.


10 posted on 12/27/2016 5:40:19 AM PST by Blennos ( As)
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To: Blennos

From the author: Ditto thanks to Kingu.


11 posted on 12/27/2016 5:43:09 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: reaganaut

To ReaganAut, from Chesterton, Orthodoxy, Suicide of Thought:

The modern world is not evil; in some ways the modern world is far too good. It is full of wild and wasted virtues. When a religious scheme is shattered (as Christianity was shattered at the Reformation), it is not merely the vices that are let loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. The modern world is full of the old Christian virtues gone mad. The virtues have gone mad because they have been isolated from each other and are wandering alone. Thus some scientists care for truth; and their truth is pitiless. Thus some humanitarians only care for pity; and their pity (I am sorry to say) is often untruthful. For example, Mr. Blatchford attacks Christianity because he is mad on one Christian virtue: the merely mystical and almost irrational virtue of charity. He has a strange idea that he will make it easier to forgive sins by saying that there are no sins to forgive. Mr. Blatchford is not only an early Christian, he is the only early Christian who ought really to have been eaten by lions. For in his case the pagan accusation is really true: his mercy would mean mere anarchy. He really is the enemy of the human race— because he is so human. As the other extreme, we may take the acrid realist, who has deliberately killed in himself all human pleasure in happy tales or in the healing of the heart. Torquemada tortured people physically for the sake of moral truth. Zola tortured people morally for the sake of physical truth. But in Torquemada’s time there was at least a system that could to some extent make righteousness and peace kiss each other. Now they do not even bow. But a much stronger case than these two of truth and pity can be found in the remarkable case of the dislocation of humility.

It is only with one aspect of humility that we are here concerned. Humility was largely meant as a restraint upon the arrogance and infinity of the appetite of man. He was always outstripping his mercies with his own newly invented needs. His very power of enjoyment destroyed half his joys. By asking for pleasure, he lost the chief pleasure; for the chief pleasure is surprise. Hence it became evident that if a man would make his world large, he must be always making himself small. Even the haughty visions, the tall cities, and the toppling pinnacles are the creations of humility. Giants that tread down forests like grass are the creations of humility. Towers that vanish upwards above the loneliest star are the creations of humility. For towers are not tall unless we look up at them; and giants are not giants unless they are larger than we. All this gigantesque imagination, which is, perhaps, the mightiest of the pleasures of man, is at bottom entirely humble. It is impossible without humility to enjoy anything— even pride.


12 posted on 12/27/2016 5:45:25 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

“...California electorate they would Save the Planet... “

California electorate would enslave the Planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFi2ZM_7FnM

Nutty fruits ALERT!


13 posted on 12/27/2016 5:48:20 AM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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To: kingu

I do. I ordered a case from Amazon as soon as it passed.


14 posted on 12/27/2016 5:56:04 AM PST by sheana
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To: CharlesOConnell

As soon as we get the ‘Devil’s Weed’ eradicated we can start on booze. We’ll already have an army of drug warriors in place to deal with the degenerates who like to use alcohol. I’m thinking ten years if you’re caught in possession of a bottle of beer. Oh, and don’t forget tobacco because it destroys brain cells. We can get the church people on board without any difficulty but we need a catchy slogan like ‘Pot Makes Baby Jesus Cry’. In a few decades we’ll have everyone on the straight and narrow.


15 posted on 12/27/2016 5:58:05 AM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: CharlesOConnell
She said: “Adolescent-onset cannabis users, but not adult-onset cannabis users, showed marked IQ decline from childhood to adulthood. (...)

“Quitting or reducing cannabis use did not appear to fully restore intellectual functioning among adolescent-onset former persistent cannabis users,” she said. (...)

The cognitive abilities of the 10 per cent of people who started in their 20s - who could loosely be classed as college smokers - also suffered while they were still smoking.

However, if they gave up at least a year before their IQ test at 38, their intelligence recovered, suggesting their brains were more resilient and bounced back.

Prof Moffitt said adolescent brains appeared "more vulnerable to damage and disruption" from cannabis than those of fully mature adults.

This is not at all surprising.

The brain continues to develop until about age 25. Cannabis use prior to that age disrupts gene expression, which has an effect on brain structure. The more mature the brain is, the more resistant it is to the disruptive effects of marijuana use--because the affected brain structures are already formed, rather than still developing.

I think that observations about the effects of marijuana use around the turn of the last century led to making it illegal. And we have forgotten those lessons--a process which was accelerated by the consistent lies propagated by NORML. With all of these efforts to legalize recreational marijuana use, we are going to relearn these lessons. Welcome to the next generation of marijuana-induced welfare queens/Democrat voters (that is, if they can drum up enough initiative to vote).

16 posted on 12/27/2016 6:01:30 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: kingu

My wife has gotten very angry with me because I refuse to either carry in a grocery bag or pay for single use bags. So far I’ve bought only what I can carry, gone in with an old style plastic bag I just got at CVS in my back pocket, or let her do the shopping. I simply refuse to comply with the law. She does not understand my little protest.

Going forward I am switching to shopping at Costco. They will give you boxes to put things in.


17 posted on 12/27/2016 6:02:22 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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I get boxes at aldi and Bjs...works fine...

But I do have a cloth one...when I remember to take it.

18 posted on 12/27/2016 6:58:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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I bought a package of 1000 plastic bags just like the ones that the grocery stores don’t provide anymore. I keep a bunch of them in my trunk and grab 10 or so when I go shopping. Little has changed for me other than the fact that it’s difficult to get the stupid little bags open, and so I cause a delay for the grocery store workflow.


19 posted on 12/27/2016 8:01:27 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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As I've been a shopper at Aldi since they opened, I've gotten used to their large and heavy duty reusable bags and between those and the Ikea bags, it is hardly a chore dealing with the moronic law.

I have pointed out to people on more than a few occasions the old meat stains that they're putting raw fruit into and advised making use of those free bags in the produce section if they insist on not cleaning their bags.

It is absolutely amazing how little people consider cross contamination for their shopping bags. At the end of the day, this law will end up killing people. But what is a few lives here and there each month compared to the beauty of the same amount of trash being dumped by idiots...

Oh, right, keep forgetting, the public and the lawmakers never considered that the most likely people to dump their bag and not reuse it at home or throw it away are the same people they're giving free bags to with their EBT cards.

20 posted on 12/27/2016 9:44:08 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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