I was just pleased to have an excuse to post a pic of Mr. Keith with a couple revolvers.
Cheers to you, and Merry Christmas!
Posted on 12/19/2016 9:11:11 AM PST by w1n1
I have a .22 conversion kit for my Kimber 1911 45 ACP.
I shoot better with the .22 kit as a general rule, but it’s not the hardware, it’s me.
In the 45 configuration, I find myself pushing the front sight down just as I pull the trigger, in anticipation of the recoil. My grip is also tighter when firing it in the 45 configuration. These habits go away when shooting with the .22 kit installed.
If I concentrate, and let the trigger truly surprise me, I’m just as accurate with the 45 setup.
A bad workman always blames his tools.
The mechanical accuracy of every 1911A1 I encountered while in the service was just fine. Sometimes sights were off, but they grouped well enough. I had a secondary MOS as a marksmanship instructor, so I got to work with a lot of shooters, with both the 1911A1 and the M9.
Handguns in modern battle are mostly tits on a boar, and unfortunately most Marines and Soldiers would rather hit the gymn than the range.
If President Trump appointed me military sidearm czar, I’d let every officer and NCO choose their own sidearm in either .40, .45 or 9mm and write off one purchase every two years on their taxes, and I’d take all the money spent on diversity training and use it to by ammo that any service member would get to use on the range. I’d also give those who qualify expert an extra banana or two in the old paycheck, and make concealed carry possible in every state for those who qualify.
I know, but the ones made in 1951, say, were just military versions with a C serial number.
There are all sorts of accounts where police shoot 100-200 rounds at a suspect to only hit them 3 or 4 times. They are using modern 9mm or .40cal. To paraphrase Bruce Lee, ‘targets don’t shoot back.’ Accuracy changes drastically when being shot at.
My Kimber hits where the nice little built in lazer points to.
Well they are shooting at “paper” targets
Accuracy tends to deteriorate when the target shoots back at you
A tighter grip can certainly hurt accuracy...but I tried out a friend’s conceal carry .45 and it almost flew out of my loosely gripped hand. It was so small, it almost rotated back towards me with the recoil.
1911’s are junk, always have been and filled in a needed gap at one time. If you DID hit your target it went down. Period.
I own a bone stock 1911a1 Remington Rand circa 1943/44. I would never modify it or accurize it in any way. It is to me, a history lesson in steel. It is not my most accurate hand gun but like the one in the video it’ll hit center mass all day at 20 yards if I do my part.
BTW when I showed it to my late WW2 marine dad some years back, He said ‘why do you want one of those inaccurate things’. He never had fired one just heard scuttle butt from other marines.
My wife’s father was in WWII and had a “Remington Rand” 1911. My brother-in-law had it, and gave it to me a few years ago because he thought one of my sons should inherit it. He told me, “It’s not very accurate, but it will shoot.”
I was very grateful that he thought so much of my sons, and thanked him several times.
My sons and I took it to the range, and I proceeded to make a 3-inch pattern at 7 yards the first time I shot it... I looked at my son and said, “It’s not the gun.”
Not only did Elmer Keith work on 45s at the Ogden Armory, he won a bet with the NCOIC of his section on some 100-yd shooting with the 1911. I’ll find the details.
Not to mention his skills with revolvers at long ranges.
“When someone tells me their sights are off, I ask them why their rounds aren’t grouped.”
My friend just borrows their gun, drops three holes in the bullseye and says “Nope, how about we work on your shooting mechanics.”
I hold an expert badge with the Carbine and we fired at 500 yards 50 years ago. Have one on my wall today. Ammo is a little hard to come by and it isn't cheap.
There are some gel block videos on youtube with Carbine firing modern ammo.
GIs in WW2 were trained to shoot it 1 handed.
Haha... that’s a good response, too.
I was just pleased to have an excuse to post a pic of Mr. Keith with a couple revolvers.
Cheers to you, and Merry Christmas!
Nice job! I shoot just about every day up here but only once in a great while put a group together that good! (To damn shaky now I guess!)
It was my “last resort” in RVN. Thank goodness never got close to having to use it.
1. Replace the old, small G.I. sights with high visibility front and rear sights.
2. Do a trigger job so you'll have a consistent 4 to 4.5 pound pull.
3. Install a NM type trigger with an over-travel stop screw.
4. Fit a NM type barrel bushing.
5. Install a Combat Commander ejector and eliminate any chance of a jam. 6. Install Pachmyr "Signature" grips (originals without the finger grooves) for a solid control of the pistol.
7. Use a 2 hand hold on the pistol and not the single hand ("bull's eye") stance.
8. Bring the pistol down on the target when you are sighting.
NM refers to What?
Good points All,
Thanks
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