DL: They too were a slave owning Confederacy seceding from a Union and led by a slave owning General from Virginia.
Could be able to understand one word of your post. None of what fellow Americans hold to be self-evident is evident to him. His is caught in a prison of his own device.
Something odd in DiogenesLamp's background or education, can't tell what it is, but does seem very, well, un-American.
DL: They too were a slave owning Confederacy seceding from a Union and led by a slave owning General from Virginia.
Could be able to understand one word of your post. None of what fellow Americans hold to be self-evident is evident to him. His is caught in a prison of his own device.
You are going to deny that the United States formed a Confederacy in 1781?
You are going to deny that they were leaving a Union?
You are going to deny that their armies were led by a slave owning General from Virginia?
THIS IS YOUR HISTORY! Stop trying to color the truth to your liking. You are straining at gnats and swallowing camels in your efforts to see an appreciable distinction between the Founders and the Confederates, but the truth is that the Confederates had as much right as the founders to leave, you just don't like it because you wish to believe your side was right.
It wasn't. It was evil, murderous, greedy and morally wrong. Your side murdered 750,000 people to restore power to New York/Washington elite power barons, and you and the other apologists are too stupid to realize you have been nothing but useful idiots to the malignant power structure that developed as a result of this evil war.
We are still fighting this same war between normal America and the robber baron/Washington axis of evil! The Center of Elite Financial power is still New York, same as it was in 1861, and it still exerts its baneful influence on the Federal Power structure and US policy in general.