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President Trump will Pass the Hearing Protection Act
Gun Watch ^ | 16 November, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/20/2016 11:48:22 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Paladin2

“- - I want my incandescent light bulbs back too.”

Same here. It’s such an absolutely mind numbing stupid a$$ law for the feds to have. I can see this being a state law, but for the feds to have such a law is really over reach.

But then again a mind numbingly stupid RINO signed the bill into law.


21 posted on 11/20/2016 12:43:59 PM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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To: FateAmenableToChange
If they’re $20 other places, why do they cost $500-$1200 here even before I pay the tax stamp? Grrr.

Because of the absurd Federal regulations placed on the manufacturers: Special licenses, an absurd amount of record keeping,serial numbers for each suppressor etc.

22 posted on 11/20/2016 12:44:51 PM PST by Jed Eckert ( " President Trump"....I love it when a plan comes together :)
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To: arl295

NJ citizens are different from VT citizens?


23 posted on 11/20/2016 12:51:53 PM PST by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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To: redfreedom

A bow or crossbow is even more quiet. Silencers do not break any law, it is the criminal that does.

Your argument is the same type the gunrabbers are using.

Go after the criminal, not the hardware, please.


24 posted on 11/20/2016 12:57:19 PM PST by wrench
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To: redfreedom; Paladin2
You can buy incandescent bulbs today -- you just have to order "rough service" bulbs. That's is the loophole around that extremely stupid law.

Standard Shape Light Bulbs

I've got plenty of regular incandescent bulbs stashed away. I've had it with the God damned totalitarians telling me how to live.

25 posted on 11/20/2016 12:58:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: marktwain

Drain the swamp.

Eliminate the ATF. Get the Feds out of Acohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Let the states set and collect all related taxes. Let the states do whatever they want within the Constitution.

Shift ATF agents to the FBI. Get the FBI out of bank robbery. It is a State and Local crime.

Feds should focus on terrorism, cybercrime, political corruption.

Drain the swamp. Get the Feds out of Transportation.
Let the States set and collect all gas, tire, airport taxes and control spending of the money.

Drain the swamp.


26 posted on 11/20/2016 1:00:53 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: FateAmenableToChange

Because of the regulation and taxes, American silencers have become the best in the world. They will last nearly forever, because no one is going to go through the trouble to get a silencer that only lasts a year or two.

Also, a silencer that works for a .223 will also work for a .22 LR, but not the other way around.

Another problem is that silencers are produced in small numbers because of the regs. If produced in mass quantities, economies of scale kick in.


27 posted on 11/20/2016 1:01:57 PM PST by marktwain
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To: redfreedom
"So personally, I’m against silencers."

Fortunately, there are no such things as gun silencers.

Noise suppressors, or mufflers, yes; but, no silencers. Except, of course, in Hollywood.

28 posted on 11/20/2016 1:04:38 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: redfreedom
I see not using a silencer as a good thing,

Sort of like those people with no muffler on motorcycles - loud pipes save lives. Especially at 3 am when everyone else is trying to sleep.

29 posted on 11/20/2016 1:06:29 PM PST by glorgau
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To: wrench

I’m not going after hardware, or anything else for that matter. I merely stated my concern for personal safety in the woods and especially for near our home.

Actually, silencers or no silencers have little to do with infringing on our right to bear arms because a silencer is not a firearm, nor does having or not having one restrict the use of a firearm. My point is, this is an issue that could be left up to individual municipalities or states. It’s really another one of those issues the feds had no business getting in to begin with.

I do not like gun grabbers anymore than the next person.


30 posted on 11/20/2016 1:07:18 PM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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To: arl295

Those are laws passed by a government terrified of its own citizens.


31 posted on 11/20/2016 1:10:42 PM PST by IronJack
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To: marktwain
a bizarre law with unintended consequences

John Ross, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

32 posted on 11/20/2016 1:13:59 PM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Moltke

I see what you did there.


33 posted on 11/20/2016 1:14:35 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: Jeff Vader

silencers were not part of 1934 NFA, they were added to NFA in 1938.


An interesting claim. I have not been able to find an article substantiating it. The National Firearms Act was passed in 1934, then the Federal Firararms act in 1938.

Could you please cite a source (a link would be great!) that shows that silencers were not in the 1934 law, but were in the 1938 law? My understanding is the 1938 law required Federal Firearms licenses for mailing pistols across state lines, generally.

Thanks.


34 posted on 11/20/2016 1:18:15 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Firararms should be Firearms


35 posted on 11/20/2016 1:20:28 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The times dictated the legislation. Organized crime had taken over vities in the 2ps. These criminals availed themselves of all sirts of exotic weaponry. Silencers were considered, like Tommy Guns and sawed offs to be the tools of the trade for these criminals. Cops were often outgunned if they were a mind to confront the lawlessness. So silencers, the tools of furtive killings, and sawed offs, and Tommy Guns, and other AWs like BARs were declared illegal. O Tempora O Mores.


36 posted on 11/20/2016 1:23:36 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: redfreedom

The ATF classifies suppressors as firearms. They are protected by the 2nd Ammendment, and restricting their use injures the user and restricts the utility of firearms in general.

I have permanent hearing loss from firearms use from before the time hearing protection was widely recommended.


37 posted on 11/20/2016 1:25:51 PM PST by wrench
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To: RandallFlagg

...and it wasn’t unintended. :-)


38 posted on 11/20/2016 1:28:36 PM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: umgud
Will it preempt state laws?

Does OSHA? Just guessing it can be made to Trump State laws....

39 posted on 11/20/2016 1:29:36 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: CodeToad

“Counties and cities could easy enforce them.”

That’s the only thing I see wrong with making it a law. Someone will take it from “If you want one you can have one” to “You have to have one.”

I suppose if it means a gun club can stay open - then that should be up to the gun club. But I don’t want to be told I have to put a silencer on my well-balanced over/under shotgun to go shoot trap. (I’m not even sure how that would work!)


40 posted on 11/20/2016 1:31:49 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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