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Shocking Social Security News Gives Anyone With Faith in the System a Huge Wakeup Call
USA Today, Forbes via Birch Gold Group ^ | October 21, 2016 | Birch Gold

Posted on 10/24/2016 9:06:21 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

Lois Lerner’s government retirement is $102,600 a year.


21 posted on 10/24/2016 10:08:57 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Lorianne
comfortable retirement....

I think that those two words used in tandem will disappear from people's vocabulary.

When I go to stores, I see more and more "retirement-age" folks stocking the shelves and cashiering. Its a sign of the times.

22 posted on 10/24/2016 10:10:59 AM PDT by bkopto
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Then stop pouring billions down rat holes in h*ll hole countries who hats us and FIX IT!!!


23 posted on 10/24/2016 10:51:08 AM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type) ANGRY? REFUSE TO VOTE? VOTING 3RD PARTY? HELLO HILLARY!!!)
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Hats should read
HATE


24 posted on 10/24/2016 10:55:29 AM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type) ANGRY? REFUSE TO VOTE? VOTING 3RD PARTY? HELLO HILLARY!!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Of course, the last time there was a decent raise...I got $16 a month...and the Medicare Part B increase took $15 of it. Obviously...another flaw.

Been noticing SS raises vs. Medicare hikes for some time - invariably the raises are negated by the hikes.

Seems like the hikes will be higher than the raises this coming year....

25 posted on 10/24/2016 11:06:58 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: patriot08
Then stop pouring billions down rat holes in h*ll hole countries who hats us and FIX IT!!!

Agree! Any time the White House and Congress agree to give millions/billions to those hostile countries, a matching amount should be poured into Social Security funding and distributed as an increase. And a like amount removed from welfare entitlements. SS is our money, and welfare is also our money (stop giving away our money to others who didn't create it!).

26 posted on 10/24/2016 11:10:10 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: sphinx

>>He will pay for this with pixie dust.
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Perhaps he will fund it by prosecuting the Globalists who have stolen trillions of dollars which have gone “missing”, and procure the return of the money to us, the American taxpayer.

Catherine Austin Fitts speaks to this in her most recent interview with Greg Hunter:

Catherine Austin Fitts-Clintons Addicted to Privilege

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCeEzmmCd5c


27 posted on 10/24/2016 11:55:40 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian (Establishment on Trump: "He's the Grinch Who'll Stop our Looting!")
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Thank you for referencing that article Lorianne. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Patriots are reminded that many federal social spending progams, including Social Security and Obamacare, are based on an incorrect interpretation of the Constitution’s General Walfare Clause (GWC; 1.8.1) by FDR era lawmakers and justices imo.

Let’s begin this brief discussion with the following clarification of the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers by a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting activist justices. The Court had explained, in terms of the 10th Amendment, that powers that the states have not expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

The major constitutional problem with federal programs like Social Security and Obamacare is this. FDR’s low-information justices wrongy agreed with misguided Congress that the GWC is a specific delegation of power to establish things like Social Security and Obamacare. But if the post-17th Amendment ratification federal leaders at that time had done their homework in law school they would probably have been aware of the following.

When James Madison, Madison generally regarded as the father of the Constitution, had vetoed the public works bill of 1817, he had noted the following in the constitutionally required veto explanation.

Madison indicated that the Founding States had not intended for the GWC to be understood as a specific delegation of power to Congress, but as an introductory clause for the rest of the clauses in Section 8 which followed it, those clauses intended as specific delegations of power.

”To refer the power in question to the clause "to provide for common defense and general welfare" would be contrary to the established and consistent rules of interpretation, as rendering the special and careful enumeration of powers which follow the clause nugatory and improper. Such a view of the Constitution would have the effect of giving to Congress a general power of legislation instead of the defined and limited one hitherto understood to belong to them, the terms "common defense and general welfare" embracing every object and act within the purview of a legislative trust.” —James Madison, Veto of federal public works bill, 1817

Note that “government” spending programs like Social Security and Obamacare have always been possible under the 10th Amendment, each state having the power to establish its own programs.

But in order for the constitutionally limited power federal government to establish such programs the states must first delegate to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for such programs, the states never doing so for Social Security and Obamacare.

In fact, all that the establishment of Obamacare did was to prove how corrupt all three branches of the unconstitutionally big federal government are imo.

28 posted on 10/24/2016 11:58:24 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: kabar
Social Security, which is bankrupt, has turned into a political football and is no more than a Ponzi scheme. The dumb down American thinks it's a livable return of “investment” and think government knows how to safe keep the suffocating tax that gouges every working persons paycheck. If every American who paid in could invest the money themselves it would exponentially turn out way much better. But we all know the tantrums from the left would drown all common sense (as witnessed in the 2000 debates). This and the Obama AHC tax inexplicably both passed loser Supreme Court cases.
29 posted on 10/24/2016 12:53:17 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Lorianne

If we didn’t give so much of America’s money away to others, we could double the SS benefit.


30 posted on 10/24/2016 12:58:49 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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To: Aevery_Freeman
"He will pay for this with pixie dust mining and mineral rights leasing and sale of excess government holdings".

As I said, pixie dust. Social Security is structurally insolvent. An asset sale can help plug a hole on a temporary basis, but Social Security's unfunded liabilities are huge, growing, and open-ended. You can't solve that kind of problem with asset sales. As a businessman and Wharton grad, Trump should know this, but I expect Social Security is one of the innumerable issues about which he has gotten his information from Twitter and at Manhattan cocktail parties.

31 posted on 10/24/2016 6:13:01 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: roadcat
Well bless your heart. Somebody finally agrees with me. (I expected to be flamed, as usual)

Our SS system is not perfect, but it is what it is. Our elders, who worked hard and helped make America the greatest country in history, paid into SS with the promise of something coming in to help them get by when they become too old/ill to work. Fact.

My poor old grandfather worked so hard all his life and paid into SS. He hasn't had a cost of living raise in God knows when. He could not survive on his tiny SS check if we didn't help him- while Obama hands out billions upon billions to countries who hate us; terrorist supporting countries such as Iran.

Americans should come first. Charity begins at home.

The following list of billions and billions given away (while Americans suffer) is old and doesn't even begin to scratch the surface but it will give you some idea of what goes on:

The average American hasn’t a CLUE how much of our tax money Obama has sent down Muslim H*ll holes while he slashes the military, lets our vets die waiting for medical care, CUTS MEDICARE and has made threats to withhold senior’s social security checks, ad nauseam!

BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!

Obamas 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and passed by the full committee. It gives billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies. http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/1...

Read the summary from David Obeys office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

$3.6 BILLION, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

$400 MILLION, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

AFGHANISTAN: $1.52 BILLION, $86 MILLION above the request WEST BANK AND GAZA: $665 MILLION in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

JORDAN: $250 million,$250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

EGYPT: $360 MILLION, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance,$50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

PAKISTAN:$1.9 billion,$591 million above the request

IRAQ:$968 MILLION,$336 million above the request

Oversight: $20 million,$13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq

Lebanon:$74 million

International Food Assistance:$500 MILLION,$200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

REFUGEE ASSISTANCE:$343 MILLION,$50 million above the request, including humanitarian assistance for Gaza.

Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

Disaster Assistance: $200 MILLION to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

Peacekeeping:$837 MILLION FOR UNITED NATIONS peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system

OBAMA GIVES YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO REBUILD MUSLIM MOSQUES AROUND THE WORLD! http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/... #

ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GIVE AWAY NEARLY $6 MILLION OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO RESTORE 63 HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES, INCLUDING ISLAMIC MOSQUES AND MINARETS, IN 55 NATIONS. See the State Department document here. http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-...

And THAT’S just the tip of the iceberg.

THIS will blow your mind!! http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/ They should have 2010 up, but they don’t. That’s where you’ll find Obama’s largesse towards Muslim countries really go off the charts.

http://www.foreignassistance.gov/DataView.aspx charts: http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/data/fast-facts.html .

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Obama Increased Foreign Aid 80%; Spent 76% More on Foreign Aid Than Border Security cnsnews

CNSNews.com) - From fiscal 2008 to fiscal 2011, according to the U.S. Treasury, the federal government increased spending on foreign aid by 80 percent and, in fiscal 2011, spent 76 percent more on foreign aid than it did securing the borders of the United States.

In fiscal 2008, the government spent a total of $11.427 billion in international assistance programs, according to the Monthly Treasury Statement. In fiscal 2011, according to the statement, it spent $20.599 billion—an increase of $9.172 billion, or 80 percent, from 2008.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-increased-foreign-aid-80-spent-76-more-foreign-aid-border-security

Stop this insanity. Take care of Americans and America. Make America Great Again!

32 posted on 10/25/2016 5:35:41 AM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type) ANGRY? REFUSE TO VOTE? VOTING 3RD PARTY? HELLO HILLARY!!!)
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To: sphinx
Yes, of course, Social Security, being a Ponzi scheme, is structurally insolvent.

Problem is most Baby Boomers were trapped in this socialist wet dream by a gun-wielding Federal behemoth and we want and need our money back (OK, I never bought into the scheme so saved independently).

The government would rather keep their (our) resources and foment class warfare between the young and old - not a good deal for the old.

It is very easy to convince younger people that the "foggies" have been ripping them off and deserve death and deprivation for their sins.

Self-piety is an ugly but common foible of the human spirit.

33 posted on 10/25/2016 5:36:22 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (#FreeJulian)
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To: C210N

“retired sector can just make it up with their near-zero interest savings accounts”

I can recall ONE instance of the amount of income ORFs have lost on TV or Radio.....It is totally covered up by 99.9%
of the eternal noise of those idiot mouthings in/on the lsm...


34 posted on 10/25/2016 5:43:35 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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