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War Drums with Russia & the Post-Obama Middle East
USA Transnational Report ^ | October 8, 2016 | USA Transnational Report

Posted on 10/08/2016 2:31:28 PM PDT by Randall_S

War with Russia? So suggests John McCain, in so many words. In advocating for decisive action in Syria, the Senator insinuates he is OK with a head-on collision with Russia. And the media report this ‘threat’ as though it might actually spark a nuclear war. While the situation is tense and even volatile, could it really spark a nuclear war? Unlikely.

Along the southeast coast, a hurricane threatens destruction. Like Sandy in 2012, it overshadows a looming election – at least for a few days in the news cycle. It’s obvious, with the Doomsday reporting of nuclear war and natural disasters, that the media do not want us focused on the choice we have ahead.

For example, our next president will be faced with challenges of a world that has inverted against America. Throughout the Middle East, the USA’s former allies are all turning toward Russia. Who’s to say that Europe isn’t next? We’ll give you our analysis on this and more topics…

Join us Saturday for these topics and more…

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-The Media’s Distractions

-October Surprises

-New U.N. Leader

-Israel selling Iron Dome to Azerbaijan

-Achille Lauro remembrance

-Post-Obama Middle East Analysis

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1 posted on 10/08/2016 2:31:29 PM PDT by Randall_S
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To: Randall_S

McCain I just can’t trust on such important matters


2 posted on 10/08/2016 2:33:47 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Randall_S

Brilliant. /s


3 posted on 10/08/2016 2:37:45 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (when the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you Leary is this)
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To: Randall_S

These despicable bastards have put us in a vulnerable place. I say we demand a commission funded by the American taxpayer to relentlessly and viciously go after all involved with the pulling down of Americas pants, of coarse when President TRUMP resides


4 posted on 10/08/2016 2:45:11 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (I)
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To: faithhopecharity
McCain I just can’t trust on such important matters

You can't trust McCain on ANY matters.

5 posted on 10/08/2016 2:46:42 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered. All it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage.)
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To: Randall_S

After Obama practically decimated the US military and handed Putin everything he wanted and probably more on all-important missile defense and nukes, including the especially dangerous Iran nuke deal, which Putin loves and claims to have played a major role in, they’re talking about going to war with Russia? Sounds like a “set up” to me.


6 posted on 10/08/2016 2:47:42 PM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: Randall_S

1). McCain is a nut - how DARE he push for war with any nation, let alone Russia.

2) Neither side will permit itself to lose conventionally to the other,,,but one will lose, and then resort to tactical nukes. If we do that, the Russians will first strike us 10 minutes later. They KNOW it will escalate, and they will not wait to be slammed hard like in 1941. If they feel the need to go nuclear to stop a conventional loss, they will START with a first strike...for the reason s stated before.

This is INSANE!!! Who gives a rat’s ass about Syria?


7 posted on 10/08/2016 2:49:20 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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8 posted on 10/08/2016 2:52:33 PM PDT by McGruff (Have you seen the new movie, Weekend at Hillary's?)
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To: ETL

Made the mistake of clicking on the link to find a quote. Oh, well . . . “USA Transnational Report” goes on the derp list.


9 posted on 10/08/2016 3:10:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: faithhopecharity
The article states "McCain insinuates he is OK with a head-on collision with Russia."

His track history is whenever he speaks concerning any foreign nation you can know with certainty he's purposely inciting conflict...there's nothing just insinuating about it.......If he goes to Russia or Syria....guaranteed war will follow...important to watch where he goes now...he's always on the ground before a war or conflict.

This man is traitorous, dark and evil player on the world stage....and within the Establishment in Washington just as much.....


10 posted on 10/08/2016 3:13:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy

I didn’t click on the link. In any case, I was referring to Obama potentially trying to set up our military for defeat, given that he had handed Putin everything he wanted on missile defense and nukes, including the Iran deal which Putin loves and claims to have played a major role in. That while all-but dismantling our military.


11 posted on 10/08/2016 3:18:43 PM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: caww

Your problem is not that he’s “inciting conflict.” Your problem is that you perceive that he’s inciting conflict with your dear Mother Russia.


12 posted on 10/08/2016 3:24:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: caww

he is inciting wars for Soros and the IslamoNazi dictators on the Arabian peninsula, this is also being done by Soros’ other puppets Obama/HilLIARy/Kerry

it may be a miracle these people have not already created a major confrontation with Russia, that seems to be one of their top goals

they keep pursing it

(note: I am NOT an isolationist by any means, its just that these wars serve interests other than those of USA or or allies)


13 posted on 10/08/2016 3:38:23 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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Hate saying it but Russia’s shown far more restraint then this administration even considers in dealing with foreign nations. We all know who Putin is and what he’s capable of...but he’s not an instigator...he’s a reactionary when it comes to other nations and generally with his nation in mind over that of any other.

McCain will always be an instigator...I detest the man for the trouble he always creates....he’s vile and is at the top of those who lie, cheat and steal. He’s why we got Obama....and he’s why their are conflicts that didn’t have to happen....he’s Obama’s and Soros front man for war and conflict...


14 posted on 10/08/2016 3:49:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy; caww

Because fighting a war with Russia would be just so keep, we would whip the Mongol asses back to Russia, they couldn’t do anything to us.

Not wanting to fight a war with Russia is somehow favoring Russia? Yeah, right: try self-control preservation, idiot. How long do you think that a conflict between American and Russian forces will remain conventional? A couple days, max, and then if you or I survive the initial exchange, our chief concern will be living for the next week or month. We will be eating bugs and wiping our rears with leaves, wondering if we got that fatal dose of radiation, or if some gang is going to visit us the next day and take our stuff after killing us and raping our women.

I repeat: idiot!


15 posted on 10/08/2016 3:50:40 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: 1rudeboy; caww

Keep = kewl.


16 posted on 10/08/2016 3:52:06 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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We all know who Putin is and what he’s capable of...but he’s not an instigator...he’s a reactionary

Bullsh*t.

17 posted on 10/08/2016 3:55:18 PM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: caww

it defies logic why Arizona keeps re-electing this man!?


18 posted on 10/08/2016 3:56:22 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Randall_S
". . . could it really spark a nuclear war? Unlikely."

Depends on what Russia sees as the most probable outcomes in the wargames it constantly plays.

If they see protracted attrition in the military and financial spheres as inevitable, then the real question is whether or not Russia can take out every major city in the US that is within two hundred miles of a seacoast within the first three to six minutes after the first launch is detected because Russia will never again let itself be forced into a war of attrition (on any level really, not just on the military level).

With sub launched hypersonic nukes that is, in fact, just becoming possible. Once that type of weapon is advanced to the point that seeing it coming is difficult, or nearly impossible, until it rises to detonation altitude how well the US can react when decapitated rather than how well it can react within the first few minutes after an attack is detected becomes the important question.

Therefore, if the US follows the course McCain and the NeoCons advocate, the real question is whether Russia believes it is more capable of surviving a retaliatory strike than the idiots like McCain and the NeoCon BS corps believe the US is.

Remember a few things from history as you consider the present :
1) Pearl Harbor is too shallow for torpedo attacks and therefore it's safe to forward base
the Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor
2) It is impossible for a large military force, especially a mechanized force, to attack through
the Ardennes into France.
3) Air Marshal Goring can without a doubt keep enemy bombers from ever reaching the industrial Ruhr or the Berlin area, so relocating industry further east and building all new industry in the east is a waste of resources.
4) When speaking of the invasion of Russia,“You have only to kick in the door,” said
Hitler confidently, “and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down.”

19 posted on 10/08/2016 4:00:32 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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We all know who Putin is and what he’s capable of...but he’s not an instigator...he’s a reactionary

From SkyNews, August 10, 2008

"The crisis was sparked earlier this week when Georgia sent troops into the breakaway province of South Ossetia to quell a Russian-backed separatist uprising."
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Russia-On-Verge-Of-All-Out-War-As-Troops-Clash-In-Georgias-South-Ossetia/Article/200808215074261?lpos=World%2BNews_4&lid=ARTICLE_15074261_Russia%2BOn%2BVerge%2BOf%2BAll-Out%2BWar%2BAs%2BTroops%2BClash%2BIn%2BGeo
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From the New York Times, September 15, 2008
Georgia Offers Fresh Evidence on War’s Start

Russia has not disputed the veracity of the phone calls, which were apparently made by Ossetian border guards on a private Georgian cellphone network. “Listen, has the armor arrived or what?” a supervisor at the South Ossetian border guard headquarters asked a guard at the tunnel with the surname Gassiev, according to a call that Georgia and the cellphone provider said was intercepted at 3:52 a.m. on Aug. 7.

“The armor and people,” the guard replied. Asked if they had gone through, he said, “Yes, 20 minutes ago; when I called you, they had already arrived.”

Shota Utiashvili, the director of the intelligence analysis team at Georgia’s Interior Ministry, said the calls pointed to a Russian incursion. “This whole conflict has been overshadowed by the debate over who started this war,” he said. “These intercepted recordings show that Russia moved first and that we were defending ourselves.”

The recordings, however, do not explicitly describe the quantity of armor or indicate that Russian forces were engaged in fighting at that time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/world/europe/16georgia.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Georgia says Russia deploying troops in S.Ossetia
October 23, 2008

TBILISI (Reuters) – Georgia said on Thursday Russia had deployed 2,000 additional troops into South Ossetia in the past week and was preparing "provocations" in the breakaway territory.

"In the past week, Russia increased the number of troops by 2,000 to 7,000 staff," Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili told a news conference.

"We fear Russia is preparing provocations in South Ossetia," he said.

There was no immediate response from Russian authorities.

Utiashvili said dozens of Russian armored vehicles had been positioned in the disputed Akhalgori region, the southeastern corner of South Ossetia which Georgia insists should be returned to Tbilisi's control under a French-brokered ceasefire deal.

Russia sent troops and tanks into Georgia in August to repel an offensive by the Georgian military to retake pro-Russian South Ossetia, which threw off Tbilisi's rule in 1991-92.

Russia's powerful counter-strike drove the Georgian army out of South Ossetia, and Moscow's troops then pushed further into Georgia, saying they needed to prevent Georgian attacks.

The West condemned Russia for a "disproportionate response" and Russian troops have since pulled back from buffer zones around South Ossetia and a second breakaway region, Abkhazia.

The Kremlin has recognised both rebel regions as independent states and said it would station 7,600 troops there to provide security.

A 225-strong European Union mission is monitoring the ceasefire, patrolling the former buffer zone around South Ossetia up to its de facto border.

Russia says the mission will not be allowed to operate inside South Ossetia.

(Reporting by Niko Mchedlishvili; editing by Christian Lowe)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081023/wl_nm/us_georgia_ossetia_troops_1

20 posted on 10/08/2016 4:03:26 PM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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