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Third Circuit Rules Permanent Gun Ban from an Involuntary Commitment is Unconstitutional
Gun Watch ^ | 17 September, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/25/2016 4:39:16 AM PDT by marktwain

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Courts starting to treat the Second Amendment as a fundamental right.
1 posted on 09/25/2016 4:39:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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The 2nd ammendment is crystal clear, no one is ever prohibited from owning a firearm, no one ever.


2 posted on 09/25/2016 4:52:57 AM PDT by exnavy ( psalm 27: 4 ...dwell in the house of the Lord, all the days of my life...)
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“The 2nd ammendment is crystal clear, no one is ever prohibited from owning a firearm, no one ever.”

I fully agree here and will add, knowing I will likely get flamed, that even convicted felons, after having served their sentence, should not lose their 2nd Amendment rights. In particular, non-violent felons, such as those charged with non-payment of child support.


3 posted on 09/25/2016 4:58:27 AM PDT by redfreedom
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The Courts have been moving in the direction that non-violent felons should not be permanently barred.


4 posted on 09/25/2016 5:03:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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If Hillary wins...it won't matter. Shall not will be infringed....
5 posted on 09/25/2016 5:06:31 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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You are correct. Hillary is actively opposed to the rule of law, or any limitation on government power.


6 posted on 09/25/2016 5:16:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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The framers could not in a million years fathom the concept of child support, let alone felony non payment of child support and to envision such as grounds to strip 2nd Amendment rights would floor them.

It might sound fair on the face, but the transfer of funds to a fiduciary, trustee or guardian without any requirement that the funds be spent for their intended purpose nor penalty for outright theft and misuse of those funds (new rims for the new boyfriend’s car) all justified by depriving a father of his God-given and constitutional right to the care, custody and nurture of his own children which cannot be disturbed absent neglect, abuse or abandonment.

So many incremental encroachments against our God-given and constitutionally reiterated rights that we seem to accept these underlying encroachments as normal especially when used to argue in favor of further encroachments.

Child support is one of the more egregious. Imagine if the IRS said you had to pay taxes based on how much you were capable of making, rather than what you actually make. This is how child support is calculated. It is called “imputed income.” The end result is often 100% of your income leaving you nothing upon which to live.

Then immediately suspend your driver’s license so you cannot get to work or look for work and while your arrears increase, suspend your hunting and fishing licenses so you cannot legally catch or hunt food to eat. Then they suspend your passport so you cannot flee the country that is oppressing you to such a degree over a financial obligation that wouldn’t have existed in the first place if they had not initially violated your rights to the care, custody and nurture of your own children.

Soon the feds will charge you and you will do up to 10 years in prison and when you get out, still owe every cent and more (with onerous interest) and lose your right to own a gun with which to defend yourself (not that you really want to after they have destroyed your life this bad.)

Its all for the children, though.


7 posted on 09/25/2016 5:20:52 AM PDT by Ex-Pat in Mex
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Wish California would get the 2nd amendment and recognize it for visiting Americans.


8 posted on 09/25/2016 5:26:23 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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To: Ex-Pat in Mex

The Family Court racket is nothing more than a wealth redistribution scheme. It is social justice at it’s “best” and the legal system at it’s very worst.


9 posted on 09/25/2016 5:27:54 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Ex-Pat in Mex

“Child support” is a very lucrative business for state governments.


10 posted on 09/25/2016 5:38:50 AM PDT by visualops (It's the majority of the American people and Trump against the enemies of the republic - Windflier)
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“Courts starting to treat the Second Amendment as a fundamental right.”

If they were serious about that, we would be hearing the term, “Strict Scrutiny.”


11 posted on 09/25/2016 5:40:06 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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This is good stuff. People do recover. I’ve been waiting for the antis to decide any drug (or even alcohol) treatment — or even a single Alcoholics Anonymous meeting — brands you an ‘addict’ for life, even if you recover.

This ruling helps trend against that.


12 posted on 09/25/2016 5:47:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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Child support is one of the more egregious. Imagine if the IRS said you had to pay taxes based on how much you were capable of making, rather than what you actually make. This is how child support is calculated. It is called “imputed income.” The end result is often 100% of your income leaving you nothing upon which to live.

Sometimes I wonder if my childlessness is in fact a blessing.

13 posted on 09/25/2016 5:48:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: redfreedom
I fully agree here and will add, knowing I will likely get flamed, that even convicted felons, after having served their sentence, should not lose their 2nd Amendment rights.

Agreed.

Though it seems the Feral Government is eager to restore voting rights.

14 posted on 09/25/2016 5:49:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: Lazamataz

You’d enjoy “Childless Couples” by Redd Foxx.


15 posted on 09/25/2016 6:14:51 AM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: redfreedom

Agreed.


16 posted on 09/25/2016 6:43:33 AM PDT by tomkat (America OR Hitlary .. AND is not a logical option)
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To: marktwain

Owning is not necessarily possessing if one is involuntarily committed.


17 posted on 09/25/2016 6:44:59 AM PDT by Makana (Common sense is not all that common.- Anonymous)
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To: ModelBreaker

+1


18 posted on 09/25/2016 6:57:53 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump-Pence is for America First.)
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To: redfreedom

It should put an end to the plans to deny veterans rights on the excuse they suffer or might have suffered from PTSD.


19 posted on 09/25/2016 7:13:19 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: marktwain

it would seem this would also affect the veterans and seniors who have had their 2a rights removed ?


20 posted on 09/25/2016 7:44:52 AM PDT by stylin19a
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