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Followup: Stand Your Ground Defense in Doyle/Gonzalez Shooting from July of 2015
Gun Watch ^ | 12 September, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/19/2016 7:37:39 AM PDT by marktwain

The shooting scene: Driveway with car and truck is Doyle's. Truck and trailer are Gonzalez'.

On July 23 of 2015, in Citrus County Florida, Robert Doyle and Candelario Gonzalez had a very bad day.  Both made intemperate statements.  Gonzalez had his wife and two child relatives in the car with him.  He followed Doyle and Doyle's wife to their home.  Gonzalez' wife reported to 911 that "My husband wants to go whoop his (expletive),".  Gonzalez can be heard in the background:

“He just flipped me off, I’m going to kick him right in his (expletive). … I’m going to follow him right to his house,” Gonzalez can be heard saying on the call as his wife talks to a 911 dispatcher.
Doyle's statements were more defensive:
“My gun’s already out, it’s cocked and locked. I’m going home, the gun’s coming out and I’m going to put it to his (expletive) head. … It’s going down right now,” Doyle told a dispatcher.
Gonzalez got out of his vehicle and approached Doyle, who shot him.  Gonzalez died at the scene.

The story was reported and commented on at Gun Watch.  It was used as an example of how all you say to 911 is recorded, and that you have to be careful with your language.  It illustrated that returning to your home with someone following you is a bad idea. 

Doyle was charged with second-degree murder, three counts of aggravated assault with a firearm, and shooting at a building.

Of the five shots that Doyle fired in rapid succession, four hit Gonzalez, and one hit a building across the street.

A little over a year after the shooting, all charges against Doyle have been dropped after a stand-your-ground hearing by Citrus County Judge Richard Howard.  From chronicleonline.com:
Howard found Robert Eric Doyle, 52, was acting in self-defense July 23, 2015, when he shot and killed Candelario Reyneldo Gonzalez in the middle of a Beverly Hills street before ordering Gonzales’ wife and two child relatives out of the victim’s car at gunpoint.
Howard’s ruling came after a stand-your-ground hearing to drop all counts against Doyle, who was charged with second-degree murder with a firearm, three counts of aggravated assault with a firearm and shooting at a dwelling.

The law states that “a person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity ... has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his ground and meet force with force ... if he reasonably believes it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or others.”

Howard’s found that 44-year-old Gonzalez, who was unarmed, had no reason to keep following Doyle and his wife during the altercation, which occurred on the roads between Citrus Hills and Doyle’s home off South Desoto Street.
We do not know how much a year of lawyer's fees cost Doyle to get to this point.  I am certain that both the Doyle and Gonzalez families wish the event had never taken place. It is a real example of how the stand-your-ground law works in Florida, unlike the Zimmerman/Martin case, where stand-your-ground was never invoked.

The charges against Doyle were dropped after a year; the initial cautions remain valid.  Everything you say to 911 will be recorded, and will be used against you if the words can be construed to do so.

If someone is aggressively following you, do not lead them to your home.  A fire station is a better choice.  Unlike police stations, they are usually open all hours. The people there are used to dealing with emergencies.  Firemen have some of the highest percentages of carry permits of any profession.

Do not aggressively follow those who you believe did not respect you in traffic.  Those who carry have been taught to be careful and restrained in their interactions with others, so as to avoid situations such as this.

©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.
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TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; selfdefense; standyourground
Better to drive to a police station or fire station, than to take a aggressor to your home.
1 posted on 09/19/2016 7:37:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Correct. Maybe the aggressor drives by with the intention of coming back later


2 posted on 09/19/2016 7:41:23 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: marktwain

Good for Doyle, but I’m sure his savings are gone.


3 posted on 09/19/2016 5:21:12 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: USNBandit

Great point.


4 posted on 09/19/2016 5:26:38 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

And there lies the rub. A person may be totally innocent, and have all charges dropped, but their life is forever changed.

As you say, their savings have in essence been “transferred” to feed the “legal” system. Their name will forever be in the criminal database.

Henceforth, whatever they may do will always be viewed through the label of having been “charged with” horrendous crimes. I’ve seen job applications where the question was asked “Have you ever been CHARGED with a crime?” That all charges were dropped doesn’t stop future unjustified discrimination.

A sad day for all involved (except those in the legal system whose job depends on “business”).


5 posted on 09/19/2016 6:26:24 PM PDT by Kalamata
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To: Kalamata

zackly


6 posted on 09/20/2016 5:25:53 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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