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Hillary Clinton is in serious trouble with Black voters and faked polls won’t change the truth
vanity | August 29, 2016 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 08/29/2016 7:04:37 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

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To: jmaroneps37

These smug liberals are outraged that Trump would even go after black voters. They behave as if they OWN them. When Republicans ended slavery, democrats found a way to enslave blacks without whips and chains. Now, more and more black people are refusing to be bribed with a brick of cheese and lotto tickets.


21 posted on 08/29/2016 8:32:08 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: drypowder

“he establishment does not care, they will continue with the sham poll numbers in order to use massive vote fraud to put the criminal hag in the WH.”


The unintended consequence of convincing the low-information types (on both sides) that the election is over, that it is a foregone conclusion for Illary, is that a lot of Dems who might show up for a close election (including, but not exclusively, Blacks) won’t bother to vote (”my vote doesn’t matter anyway, but especially now that Hillary is going to win big”).


22 posted on 08/29/2016 9:03:08 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: jmaroneps37

Illary will be lucky to get the 88% that Horseface Kerry got, and probably won’t get anywhere near the turnout numbers of Obama...so she’s already looking at a deficit of a couple million votes nationwide. Add to that the general level of energy among Republicans (because of Trump, mainly) and the very low level of energy among Dems (because of Illary, mainly).

They are in FULL PANIC MODE - that’s why we’re getting the “Trump is a racist, KKK-supporter” lies before Labor Day, because they simply don’t know what else to do.


23 posted on 08/29/2016 9:06:37 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Gaffer
I'm super skeptical of "fake polls" narrative. I don't think that *most* pollsters are doing anything except trying to project the election as best they can. Sure sometimes they miss, but sometimes they miss on the GOP side too. Several polls (Gallup, Rasmussan) showed Romney winning.

I'm a big fan or Nate Silver's 538 site, and his statistical analysis, as well as Real Clear Politics and their poll averaging. Mostly, despite all the problems pollsters have, on average they get it right. (But yes, they also occasionally miss).

Nate Silver did a great job of rating the pollsters earlier this year, I often refer to that when looking at polls. I believe most pollsters are much more motivated to see their poll at the top of the heap in Nate's rating than to elect Clinton. (By the way, as always Nate describes his methodology, which is numerical, and lets the ratings fall where they may. Many polls get F's, D's and C's. No grade inflation at 538.

A Rated Polls:


24 posted on 08/29/2016 9:11:38 AM PDT by Jack Black (Dispossession is an obliteration of memory, of place, and of identity)
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To: jimmygrace
When Republicans ended slavery, democrats found a way to enslave blacks without whips and chains. Now, more and more black people are refusing to be bribed with a brick of cheese and lotto tickets.

Democrats of old used their own money to buy their slaves.

Present day Democrats use taxpayer money to buy their slaves.

25 posted on 08/29/2016 9:19:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: KevinB

Loser Romney had huge rallies. They never happened until the very end. Trump’s huge rallies have been from day one and Mittens got just 60% of the votes Trump got in the Republican primaries. This is a false flag.


26 posted on 08/29/2016 9:49:14 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: KevinB

Loser Romney had huge rallies. They never happened until the very end. Trump’s huge rallies have been from day one and Mittens got just 60% of the votes Trump got in the Republican primaries. This is a false flag.


27 posted on 08/29/2016 9:49:15 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Probably some blacks would ‘hit it’ but they wouldn’t vote for it.


28 posted on 08/29/2016 9:57:33 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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To: jmaroneps37

She’ll only get 109% of the black vote.


29 posted on 08/29/2016 10:04:17 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: Mr. Douglas

They can’t put Hillary! in a stadium. She goes into full screech mode with her voice when she tries to project, and that turns everyone off.


30 posted on 08/29/2016 10:10:56 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: KevinB

That’s true, Romney had big rallies. Wasn’t that in October?

Trump’s been having large rallies for over a year. I think that may be a difference.


31 posted on 08/29/2016 10:32:37 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: Jack Black
I'm super skeptical of "fake polls" narrative. I don't think that *most* pollsters are doing anything except trying to project the election as best they can. Sure sometimes they miss, but sometimes they miss on the GOP side too. Several polls (Gallup, Rasmussan) showed Romney winning.

When the internals of a poll show oversampling of Dems and Women and minorities it is a fake poll. Any time a new poll comes out I go to the bottom of the poll and look at the internals of the poll. If the internals are not given I do not even bother to read the poll because they do not want you to know how the poll was conducted.

32 posted on 08/29/2016 10:39:27 AM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND ROUGHNECK MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN , CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

The pollsters take into account the vote fraud that is highly supportive of the Democrat candidate and will constitute a large percentage of the vote this year.


33 posted on 08/29/2016 11:06:19 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: cpdiii

Without seeing the full contract on any poll it is practically useless to analyze them.

Instead of looking at tea leaves you have to look at the actions of the participants. What they are doing screams about what their internal polls are telling them.

And right now Clinton acts like she knows it’s a slam dunk.


34 posted on 08/29/2016 11:07:31 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: jmaroneps37

Our black neighbors are voting Trump. And they are spreading the word.


35 posted on 08/29/2016 11:11:42 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Ancesthntr

The planted axiom that Mrs Bill WILL WIN means that when 35% of the votes are altered or added and she “wins” by, say, 19 electoral votes with 47% of the popular vote (with the two Js, Johnson and Jill in there too), there will be no substantial protests of fraud. Or they could go the whole hog and give her 49 states and 59%. The Republican Party has legally recused itself from any protest of voter fraud and no one else will be found to have standing in a court of law.


36 posted on 08/29/2016 11:16:54 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: jmaroneps37

True. I went to a Romney rally before the election even though I didn’t want to vote for him (I did vote for him holding my nose to stop Zero). What we’ve seen at Trump’s rallies is not the same thing.


37 posted on 08/29/2016 11:17:39 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: KMJames

Paid voters tend to be less intelligent and less able to consider these things.


38 posted on 08/29/2016 11:17:47 AM PDT by arthurus
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39 posted on 08/29/2016 12:14:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("They only smear who they fear." --Diamond and Silk)
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To: KevinB

You’re assuming that that election was on the up and up. I believe there was voter fraud and election fraud there.


40 posted on 08/29/2016 12:18:19 PM PDT by uncitizen (Americanism NOT Globalism! - Trump)
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