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Clinton Lawyer Vince Foster's Death, Revisited
FreeRepublic ^ | 1998- | Alamo Girl

Posted on 08/23/2016 2:19:22 PM PDT by Mr. K

Thanks to Free Republic's [Freeper] Alamo Girl for outstanding work compiling this. It reads like a murder-mystery crime novel. These are the facts she posted, you read, you decide:

Vince Foster

9/7/00 Freeper Rayelan

“……This article appeared in the August issue of The Media Bypass magazine and is reposted here with the permission of James R. Norman. Subscriptions of Media Bypass can be obtained by calling 1-800-4-BYPASS ……..

Two weeks before his death on July 20, 1993, White House Deputy Counsel Vincent W. Foster went into a deep funk.

The official cause of death, given by former Independent Counsel Robert Fiske Jr., was suicide drivenby depression over, among other things, several newspaper editorials. But Vince Foster had a much bigger and darker reason to be seriously burned out.

He had just learned he was under investigation for espionage. ......... Outrageous? To say the least.

But a lengthy investigation has located over a dozen sources with connections to the intelligence community who confirm a shocking story of money laundering and espionage connected to the highest levels of the White House. Without grants of immunity, the sources risk going to prison for violation of the National Security Act. Virtually all have demanded anonymity. ........., According to a veteran Central Intelligence Agency operative close to the Foster investigation, Foster’s first indication of trouble came when he inquired about his coded bank account at Banca Della Svizzera Italiana in Chiasso, Switzerland and found the account empty.

Foster was shocked to learn from the bank that someone using his secret authorization code had withdrawn all $2.73 million he had stashed there and had moved it to, of all places, the U.S. Treasury. …….

Then, according to credit card records reviewed by a private investigator who has revealed them, Foster canceled the two-day round-trip TWA and Swiss Air plane tickets to Geneva he had purchased on his American Express card through the White House travel office on July 1. ……..

Discretely he began asking what was afoot, says the CIA source, confirming that someone in the White House tipped him off. It was bad news. The CIA had Foster under serious investigation for leaking high-security secrets to the State of Israel. ......”

Response from Michael Rivero:

“…… This story was floated back in 1993 when the suicide cover story began to collapse. The implication was that if Foster was murdered, he deserved it, and everyone should just (nudge nudge wink wink) accept the suicide lie because it was “National Security”. …..

But there are several problems with the story. …… First and foremost is that Vince Foster did not commit suicide. He was murdered and the phony suicide staged to conceal the murder. The forensics on the gun alone prove that it was not the gun that was used to fire a shot into Foster’s mouth, but simply planted as a prop. ......,

Yet another problem is that the real Israeli spy in the White House, code named “Mega”, was still being sought by the FBI long after Foster was dead and buried. The hunt for Mega was called off by Bill Clinton, supposedly because the Mossad had tapped Monica Lewinsky’s phone at the Watergate and recorded some phone sex sessions. ……… Thirdly, there has never been any documentation that this mythical bank account ever existed, let alone was cleaned out without Foster’s knowledge. To take another example, nobody has emptied Wen Ho Lee’s bank account yet, nor were the bank accounts of the Walkers or Aldrich Ames tampered with. ………

Which brings us to the next point. Ames and the Walkers were a tremendous embarassment to the US Government. But they were not killed and dumped in a suburban park. They were sent to trial and an example made of them. ……. Fonally, this mythical fifth column never existed. That was a cover story placed on the very obvious and sudden resignation of career politicians, in one case with re-election posters already printed and on the alls, supposedly in response to blackmail information (FBI files data) delivered by an “angel of death”.

The online shills tried to sell the idea that this mythical “5th column” was taking it upon themselves to root out and destroy corrupt politicians, except that nobody in the Clinton White House, arguably the greatest collection of corruption to ever inhabit the place, ever received a visit from the angel. ……..”

WorldNetDaily 9/13/00 Paul Sperry

“…… Lending credence to complaints of a botched investigation, Former Special Counsel Robert Fiske never seized nor even tried to seize Vincent Foster’s computer as evidence after the deputy White House counsel died unexpectedly in 1993, WorldNetDaily has learned. …… …… Only now are agents for the latest independent counsel, Robert Ray, trying to look at all the files, deleted and undeleted, on what appears to be Foster’s hard drive.

They’re also trying to interview former White House officials who handled the drive, including Jim “Mack” MacDonald, the computer division chief whose story has gone untold — until now. …… …. Not until Fiske’s successor, Kenneth Starr, took over the investigation in August 1994 — a year after Foster’s death — did authorities become interested in seizing Foster’s computer, MacDonald says.. ….

MacDonald, former director of the White House’s Information Systems and Technology division, says FBI agents paid him a visit at his New Executive Office Building office in the summer of 1994. “It was embarrassing for them to ask (for Foster’s computer),” he recalled. “I mean, they had no idea where this thing was.” …….

An inventory check by MacDonald showed Foster’s computer missing at the time. It was supposed to be in his old West Wing office.

So agents went away empty-handed. ……. Several months later, MacDonald says he stumbled on the central-processing unit, or CPU, of Foster’s computer while in a meeting in an office on the 2nd Floor of the Old Executive Office Building.

He says he spotted it on the floor and asked, “Whose PC is that?” No one knew, he says, so he checked it out. “When I picked it up and looked at the serial number, I about fell over, because it was the Foster serial number we’d been looking for,” MacDonald said. “I crossed Pennsylvania Avenue and carried it over to the Data Center on the 4th Floor in the NEOB.” ……

He says he wrapped it in plastic, affixed a label to it — “FOSTER PC” — and placed it in a tall, wheeled cabinet on the north wall near the VAX mainframes. He says he then locked the cabinet doors. ...... ……..

A White House employee, however, has sworn that MacDonald was more than just nervous. ……. “After Vincent Foster died, I received a call from Jim MacDonald, who wanted me to meet him outside to go for a ride with him. During that ride, Mr. MacDonald informed me that he had found Vincent Foster’s computer,” said Howard “Chip” Sparks in a June 19 federal court affidavit. Sparks, a White House computer network specialist, worked for MacDonald.

“In the wake of the mysterious circumstances surrounding Mr. Foster’s death, Mr. MacDonald was extremely upset by his discovery,” Sparks added. “And he told me that he was concerned that he would be killed because of what he had found.” Asked about it, MacDonald downplayed Sparks’ account, insisting: “I didn’t think someone would shoot me.” .........……. “

WorldNetDaily 9/13/00 Paul Sperry

“…… Here is Hall’s version of what happened. …….. Shortly after finding Foster’s CPU, Hall says MacDonald asked her to tap one of her technicians, Dorothy “Dottie” Crumling, to run a software program to break into some of Foster’s password-protected files.

The exercise worked. She says they were able to read one file that revealed Foster and his wife had plans for the night of July 20, 1993 — the day he was found dead. ….. Later in 1994, Hall says MacDonald had a former White House computer contractor, Mike Saunders, remove the hard drive from Foster’s CPU. MacDonald kept it in his office, she says. …….

”It was on Mack’s desk,” she said. …… When MacDonald left the White House the next year, he gave the hard drive to Jurg Hochuli, who was the Office of Administration finance director, Hall says. “Jurg had it on a bookshelf behind his desk,” she said. ...... Hall came into possession of the hard drive after she says MacDonald, who hired her, called her and asked her to pick it up from Hochuli, who transferred to the State Department. He now works there under former top Clinton aide Patsy Thomasson. …….

“Mack called me from California and told me to get it,” Hall said. “I’ve often wondered why he did it.” ……. Hall took the hard drive home. A few years ago, she says, Starr’s investigators interviewed her about the White House phone records. Hall at one time was in charge of the PBX system there, too. And Foster’s computer got brought up. Hall says she later agreed to give senior counsel Jay Apperson half of the hard drive (her husband split up the disks).

She held back half of it for “insurance,” saying she didn’t trust Starr. Now Ray’s office has the whole drive. And Hall has been subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury. ......

She says she was granted immunity from prosecution for taking possession of the Foster hard drive in exchange for the evidence and her testimony. She demanded her husband also be granted immunity before she’d cooperate. Don Hall, a computer contractor, took the hard drive apart. ……. “

Accuracy in Media 7/13/00 Reed Irvine

“……The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has ordered a federal district court in California to examine in camera photographs of former White House Deputy Counsel Vincent W. Foster, Jr. that were taken by the U.S. Park Police at the spot where his body was found on July 20, 1993. A three-judge panel ruled that the lower court had erred in dismissing a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) suit filed by attorney Allan J. Favish against the Office of the Independent Counsel (OIC) for refusing to give Mr. Favish 10 color photos of Foster’s body. .........,

The OIC had argued that it was justified in refusing to grant Mr. Favish’s request on the ground that release of the photos would constitute an invasion of the privacy of members of the Foster family because the photos are “graphic, explicit, and extremely upsetting.” ……The appellate court said, “That description is not true of the photo already published in Time [magazine] and on television, showing a hand holding a gun. It may be true of the remaining nine photos. But no court has ever seen them....

Balancing without a knowledge of what the photos show would be an exercise in the air. Accordingly, we return the case to the district court to examine the photos in camera and to balance the effect of their release on the privacy of the Foster family against the public benefit to be obtained by their release.”.........”

7/20/98 Michael Reagan “Around 1 p.m. on Tuesday, July 20, 1993, White House counsel Vincent Foster told Linda Tripp, “There are some M&Ms in the candy tray if you want them. I’ll be back.”

Then he left the office. Five hours later, he was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, a gunshot wound in the back of his mouth.

That was five years ago today. Despite a mountain of evidence that shows Foster didn’t die in that park, Kenneth Starr closed the books on the case in August 1997.

Even though the bullet was never found. Even though no motive was established. Even though the 27-piece “suicide note” that turned up days later was not a suicide note at all. Even though Foster’s body was covered with fibers (as if it had been rolled up in a carpet). Even though there was no soil from the dusty footpath on his shoes.

Investigators gave conflicting versions of almost every aspect of the evidence, including whether or not the bullet produced an exit wound, whether the wound was located in the head or neck, and even whether Foster was found on the ground or in his car.

If Vince Foster pressed a .38 against the back of his mouth and pulled the trigger, there should have been burns and gunpowder deposits around the wound, as well as broken teeth and blood on the gun-barrel — but there was none.

The most intriguing evidence is this: Four different people searched Foster’s pockets while the body was in the park, but couldn’t find his car keys. There were no keys in Foster’s Honda in the parking lot. Did the keys eventually turn up? Yes, they did. Where? At the morgue where Foster’s body was taken.

There, a check of his pockets — which had already been found empty at the park — revealed two sets of keys. Could four investigators have missed two sets of keys in Foster’s pockets? ..two White House officials who were alone with Foster’s body in the morgue shortly before the keys were found: (1) former Rose Law partner and Travelgate figure William Kennedy III, and (2) Craig Livingstone of Filegate fame..

The night Foster died, a man named Jerry Luther Parks was watching TV in his Little Rock home when a news bulletin announced Foster’s death. Parks turned pale. “I’m a dead man,” he whispered….”

Washington Weekly 11/30/98 Marvin Lee

“.The Secret Service says it has no logs or surveillance video showing the arrival or departure of Vince Foster to the White House on his last day of work, July 20, 1993..”

Vincent Foster was found with a .38 revolver made by Colt Arms, built from parts taken from two other guns, and having two serial numbers. There are contradictions between a blue/black gun and a silver colored gun separately identified, absence of Foster’s fingerprints and blood, DNA inconclusive results and a lack of matching gunpowder and bullet fragment evidence.

LARRY NICHOLS:

“.A lady came to me, scared to death, and wanted to come out and tell the truth. I said, “What’s the matter?” She said, “They’re shredding documents at the Rose Law firm.” Well, I tried to tell the media. The media said there was no way that could be going on. Well, in came a journalist from a Washington newspaper.

He goes over and investigates what I told him, and you know what? The very week he investigated, guess what they were doing? Shredding documents, right there at the Rose Law Firm. JEREMY HEDGES (Rose Law Firm paper shredder): They had his [Fosters] initials pretty much all over it, everything from the box to the manila files to — I even saw his signature on one of the Rose Firm letterheads.”

AP 7/15/95

“A burglar broke into the car of a White House lawyer preparing for Senate questioning in the Whitewater affair and stole copies of her handwritten notes about the handling of Vincent Foster’s papers.”

Chattanooga Free Press 7/14/95

Freeper Wallaby “.The car of an aide to President Clinton’s chief counsel was burglarized this week and several “sensitive documents” were stolen, White House officials said late Thursday. ... The car belongs to Cheryl D. Mills, a special assistant to White House counsel Abner Mikva..”....”

Lisa Foster, widow of suicide victim Vince Foster, recently found a set of the Rose Law Firm billing records in her attic. These are not exact duplicates of the same records that showed up 2 years after they were subpoenaed - the ones found in the White House living quarters.

Washington Weekly 11/17/97

“...All these illegitimate uses of campaign money have one thing in common. The money need not be laundered. It need only be brought in from the donor. And brought in it was. In planeloads of cash, brought in through the remote Mena airport and transferred to the trunk of the Cadillac of bag man Jerry Parks who, according to the London Telegraph, together with Vince Foster transported the illegal cash to Little Rock.

Both Foster and Parks are now dead, and we have no idea how much cash was brought in through this route, though we suspect it surpassed the amount of money that was laundered into legitimate political spending.

Of all the bag men discovered so far, six are now dead, 36 have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, eleven have fled the country, and eleven are living in foreign countries and refuse to cooperate....”

American Spectator 2/1/98

“…In his December 1997 Presswatch article, “Vince Foster Redux, “ he takes aim at Christopher Ruddy and stands up to the ridiculous conspiracy theories. I was the first police officer on the scene at Fort Marcy. My colleagues and I have endured outrageous accusations concerning this case. In one instance I was accused, in print, of having murdered Mr. Foster at the Central Intelligence Agency. Later, I reportedly transported his body to Fort Marcy in the trunk of a police car!

I have over ten years of federal law enforcement experience. Both my brother and I joined the United States Park Police together. Our father was a police officer, so working in the field of law enforcement was inherent to us.

I have appeared before hundreds of formal judicial proceedings. Never has my credibility been questioned. But along comes Mr. Ruddy. Suddenly I am a conspirator in the murder of a high-ranking official.

I cooperated in each investigation concerning this incident. I appeared before the grand jury for two days….. I can put up with the harassing post cards that I received, and telephone calls made to my family.

I even laugh at the fact that Mr. Ruddy would follow officers home after work in order to interview them, so that the “truth” could be told. But I will not allow Mr. Ruddy to question my truthfulness.

Mr. Ruddy started his “investigation” some six months after the suicide. The memories of individuals not directly involved in the investigation do tend to fade after time. And, since I have had the opportunity to be interviewed by Mr. Ruddy, I’m well aware of the direction he wanted to go regarding the “investigation.” —Kevin B. Fornshill United States Park Police Rock Creek Station Washington, D.C….”

Newsmax.com 9/14/99

“..... An Arkansas State Trooper who once guarded Bill Clinton has revealed startling new information about Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Trooper Larry Patterson, a recently retired 32-year veteran of the state police, had been the most senior member of the elite Governor’s Security Detail during the period Bill Clinton served as Governor. During that time, Patterson became privy to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s most closely guarded secrets.

Patterson told his story exclusively to NewsMax.com and Internet Vortex..... In More than Sex Patterson makes bombshell revelations, some of which have never been disclosed before: ...... Violence against Women.

Trooper Patterson says he believes Bill Clinton is capable of rape. He reveals for the first time his encounter outside the Governor’s mansion with a woman who had been injured. .....

Organized Crime. The press has ignored reporting of this critical issue, but Patterson says Clinton had a close relationship with the head of the Dixie Mafia....

Patterson said Clinton regularly received gifts from the reputed mob boss. Patterson also discloses new details of Bill Clinton’s relationship with Dan Lasater-a one-time bond dealer who served time in federal prison for cocaine distribution charges. ....

Ethnic Slurs about Jews. Both Hillary and Bill Clinton frequently used slurs during heated arguments with each other, Patterson said....

The use of the “N” word. Patterson said Bill Clinton would use the word “nigger” - the “N” word - when he was angry with African-American opponents....

Patterson said Clinton also used the “N” word during the 1992 campaign when referring to Jesse Jackson.. ....Hitler and Mein Kampf. Bill Clinton, Patterson said, spoke admiringly of Hitler and was fascinated by his book Mein Kampf.......

Vince Foster. Patterson explains why he believes Vince Foster was murdered...... Helen Dickey’s Call. On the day of Vince Foster’s death, Patterson said he learned about the death before the Park Police even found Foster’s body and hours before the White House said they were informed. Patterson’s information, corroborated by another trooper, exposes a cover-up bigger than Watergate. ......

The NewsMax.com audio cassette tape More than Sex: Trooper Larry Patterson Reveals the Secrets of Bill and Hillary Clinton is available for $19.95 plus $4.50 shipping and handling by calling 1-877-NewsMax....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...A three-judge federal panel yesterday unsealed a 511-page report, submitted by Kenneth Starr grand jury witness Patrick Knowlton in June, which — in the view of its authors — presents incontrovertible evidence of conspiracy and cover-up by the Justice Department and the Office of the Independent Counsel in connection with their investigations into Vincent Foster’s death and counters the official conclusion that the top White House official “committed suicide by gunshot in Fort Marcy Park on July 20, 1993.”

At the same time, the panel — headed by David B. Sentelle, with Richard D. Cudahy and Peter T. Fay — denied Knowlton’s request that this report be attached as an amendment to the Interim Report (the “Starr Report”) on the investigation of Foster’s death, which was released Oct. 10, 1997.

There has been no final report. ... Knowlton’s two reports are built on charges developed in a civil suit he filed Oct. 25, 1996, charging FBI agents, U.S. Park Police employees and others with obstruction of justice, witness intimidation, and personal harassment.

An amended complaint was filed last October adding defendants and additional information. The civil rights suit was dismissed Sept. 9. Today Knowlton was expected to file a motion to reconsider that ruling while he prepares to appeal the ruling of John Garrett Penn to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...The White House account from the outset was met with a barrage of criticism from some very vocal, outspoken critics — among them Western Journalism Center, the parent organization of WorldNetDaily. Another is witness Patrick Knowlton, 44, who had stopped briefly at Fort Marcy an hour and a half before the body was discovered.

He insists Foster’s silver-gray 1989 Honda was not in the parking lot at 4:30 p.m. when he arrived, though Foster had presumably driven it there, parked, then walked 700 feet to the earthworks of the fort where he took his own life.

Knowlton did, however, see a mid-1980s model, rust-brown Honda with Arkansas plates and a blue late-model sedan. Knowlton later reported that no one was in the Honda, but the driver of the sedan stood by that car watching him “menacingly” as he walked into the woods seeking a secluded place where he could relieve himself, and he was still there when Knowlton returned a few minutes later.......

Knowlton notified the U.S. Park Service as to what he had seen in the parking lot as soon as word of Foster’s death was made public on July 21, but was not contacted for a statement until the following spring.

FBI agents interviewed him in April and May 1994 prior to the release of the Fiske Report, but falsified his account of what he saw.

Despite Knowlton’s insistence that the car he saw was a 1983-84 rust-brown Honda, the agents in their report wrote that he had seen Foster’s 1989 Honda. It was clearly important to establish that Foster’s car was in the parking lot at 4:30 p.m. since the medical examiner and others later set the approximate time of death between 2:00 and 4:20 p.m. ....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...”In its footnotes the Starr Report refers readers to documents that purport to prove the conclusions it makes,” Knowlton’s Report declares.

“Of these 353 footnotes, 265, or 75 percent of them, refer the reader to documents that are unavailable.” In their evaluation of the Starr Report, the three researchers focused on its inconsistencies and contradictions....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...”Over 20 people (Park Police and paramedics) saw the body at the park and nobody reported a large exit wound at the back of the head,” Clarke said emphatically. “Plus, the bullet was never found.”

Continuing on this theme, Clarke observed there is some testimony indicating the bullet may have exited the back of Foster’s neck and did not remain in the skull, even though it was not found at the park. ....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...Asked what he considered the most significant findings in the report, Clarke drew attention to the section about the gunshot residue on Foster’s hands, which the OIC maintains is proof that he fired the gun.

The Knowlton Report offers an interpretation its authors believe is more in keeping with the facts. “Foster couldn’t have fired the weapon with the gunshot residue the way it was left on his hands,” Clarke said.

“The residue was caused by Foster holding his hands consistent with a defensive posture.” That is, “His hands were spread open; he wasn’t touching the gun, though he seems to have been pushing the barrel away when the gunman pulled the trigger.”

From page 225 of the Nolton Report: “Mr. Foster held his hands with the palms facing the revolver’s cylinder — consistent with his hands being in a definsive posture.”

To clarify this interpretation, the Report includes an showing the likely position of Foster’s hands. ....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...Clarke also characterized as “significant” the fact that the manufacturer (Remington) of the bullets that were found in the official death weapon has never used what is called ball smokeless powder.

“Ball smokeless powder is what was found on Vince Foster’s body and clothing,’ said Clarke. “We think that’s significant because it’s used for reloads. But professional hit men also use it to get particular firing characteristics out of a gun. That would be consistent with there being no exit wound.

They’d put a light powder charge in the gun so that it wouldn’t blow the back of his head off as it would, had it been stock ammunition. That’s why I think it was a professional hit.” ....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...A third major finding, in Clarke’s opinion, was the role played at the Fort Marcy Park crime scene by Sgt. Robert Edwards — a role the FBI and later the OIC tried to conceal.

By carefully going over the statements of the “firefighters” (emergency medical technicians), paramedics and Park Police officers, the Knowlton team was able to compile a minute-by-minute timetable of who arrived when, where they went, what they did, who and what they saw, and so on.

Comparing the timetable with the witness accounts of the state of the body, “We found out that the body had been tampered with at Fort Marcy Park and by whom,” said Clarke. “It was Sgt. Edwards. We have flat-out proved that.” ...”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...Edwards has long been recognized by Foster-death skeptics as a mystery man. He was with the Glen Echo Station of the U.S. Park Police, but was not the shift commander that evening nor was he one of the detectives on the case.

“I still don’t know who he is,” said Clarke. “(Investigator John) Rolla testified he had never seen him before and nobody knew who he was — but I don’t know if he (Rolla) was right on this because there was never any follow-up on the depositions.

“But he (Edwards) was definitely assigned to the Glen Echo station, because I called there and learned he had been transferred to Georgia.”

Specifically, Edwards was transferred to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center at Glynco, Ga., to serve as an instructor, according to a statement obtained by WorldNetDaily though a Freedom of Information Act request in 1997.....

Despite his somewhat ambiguous position at the Glen Echo station, at 6:28 p.m. Edwards arrived and took charge of the investigation — only to disappear 20 minutes later as quietly as he had arrived. For over 15 minutes he was alone with Foster’s body.....

At 6:26 Edwards arrived at the site while Ferstl was taking pictures. He asked Ferstl to hand over the seven Polaroids and ordered him to return to the parking lot. The photos were not inventoried and Edwards never turned them in as evidence. .....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...From 6:27 until 6:43, Edwards was alone with the body.

How did he spend that time? According to the Report, “Sometime during the over 15 minutes Sergeant Edwards was alone with the body, an untraceable .38 caliber black revolver replaced the automatic pistol in Mr. Foster’s hand. Edwards also moved Mr. Foster’s head to the right side, causing blood to flow out of the mouth onto his right side (and leaving a stain on the right cheek from its contact with the bloody right shoulder).

This made it appear that the blood already on the right side, which had in fact drained from the right side neck wound, had come from the mouth. He thus concealed the existence of the neck wound (inconsistent with suicide), and made it appear as if Mr. Foster may have been shot in the mouth (consistent with suicide).

The official explanation for the contact blood stain on the right cheek is that it had appeared when an unknown fire-and-rescue worker checked the pulse.” Sgt. Edwards disappeared as mysteriously as he arrived.

He was observed taking Polaroids — which he later reportedly denied. No one knows when he left, but it was some time around 6:50.

For all his involvement at the scene, there is no public record of his being interviewed by the FBI or Fiske investigators....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“....Foster’s missing keys: Investigator John Rolla checked Foster’s pockets at the site and found no car keys, though Foster carried two rings of keys. Later that evening — following a visit to the morgue by William Kennedy and Craig Livingstone — Rolla checked Foster’s pockets again and discovered both key rings....... “

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...The guns at the park: Only two of the witnesses who saw the gun before Edwards was there remembered what type of gun it was. Said Clarke, “One of them, (paramedic George) Gonzalez called it a revolver, and (paramedic Richard) Arthur is 100 percent sure it was a semi-automatic and even drew a picture of it while under oath. He was adamant about it....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...Lack of fingerprints: Foster’s fingerprints were on neither the official gun nor its ammunition. The FBI lab explained that problem away, saying latent prints could be “destroyed” by the summer heat; however, one print was found on the pistol grip.

Tests showed it did not match Foster’s or the prints of any of the investigators handling the gun. “To this day, that print still has not been compared to those on file in the FBI database,” the Report charges.....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...The Autopsy: “The Starr Report hides the fact that the autopsy began before the police arrived, in violation of the requirements of the Medical Examiner’s Office,” observes the Knowlton Report; moreover, the autopsy was begun a day ahead of schedule and without the two investigating officers being in attendance. Originally scheduled for Thursday, July 22, Fairfax County Medical Examiner Dr. James Beyer, with only an assistant whose name he refused to divulge, began the autopsy some time before 10 a.m., Wednesday.

By the time investigators did arrive, Beyer had destroyed considerable evidence about the alleged gunshot in the mouth.

“Prior to our arrival the victim’s tongue had been removed as well as parts of the soft tissue from the pallet,” Officer James Morrissette reported.

The OIC carefully omitted Morrisette’s sentence from its report, saying six people attended the autopsy, but neglecting to mention they weren’t all present when Beyer began his work....”

WorldNetDaily.com 9/15/99 Sarah Foster

“...Missing X-rays: There are “conflicting reports” explaining the lack of x-ray evidence: x-rays were taken and readable (but lost); x-rays were taken but unreadable; the x-ray machine was broken; and that it worked “sometimes, but not for Mr. Foster’s autopsy.”

Testifying before a Senate committee in 1994, Dr. Beyer said, “the machine wasn’t working — and I saw no need to take an x-ray.” ...”

NewsMax 9/23/99

“.....Patterson’s suspicions about the murder of Vincent Foster are further buttressed by his knowledge of a cover-up relating to the circumstances of the death. On the day of Foster’s death, Patterson said he received a phone call from fellow Arkansas state trooper Roger Perry who was working at the governor’s mansion. Perry told Patterson “he had received a call from Helen Dickey, who had been working at the White House”

According to Perry, Dickey, a social aide, had called to notify Arkansas Governor Jim Guy Tucker that “Vince Foster had been found in the parking lot of the White House and had shot himself.”

While Dickey’s account to Perry, which Perry has corroborated in a sworn affidavit, contradicts official claims Foster killed himself at Fort Marcy Park,

Dickey’s call raised a more significant discrepancy. Patterson said he is certain he had just arrived home from work, no later than 5:30 PM Central time, but most likely at about 5:00 PM, when he received Perry’s call about the death.

Dickey’s call would have been placed to Perry between 6 to 6:30 PM Eastern Time. Based on the Trooper’s account, Dickey would have known about Foster’s death a full two-and-half hours before Park Police claim they identified the body in Fort Marcy Park as Foster’s, and a full three hours before the White House claimed they were notified of Foster’s death - about 9PM that night.

The fact that people knew of Foster’s death, earlier, perhaps even before Foster’s body was found in Fort Marcy, again raises a suspicion of murder, Patterson suggests.

Patterson has been questioned about this by investigators for Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr. Patterson was shocked that Starr’s agents, rather than seek the truth of the matter, attempted to get him to change or alter his account to fit with official claims. Patterson said the FBI agents “tried for an hour and 15 minutes to get me to change my story.”.....

Patterson didn’t budge. And phone records that would support his claims, investigators told him, have disappeared or don’t exist.

Patterson and Perry’s claims about the Dickey call did raise questions of Senate investigators.

In 1995 the Senate Whitewater committee called Helen Dickey to testify. Dickey denied she called Perry early that evening or said that Foster died in the parking lot.

During the Senate Hearing, the Democratic counsel claimed both Patterson and Perry were “former troopers” who had refused to testify.

Patterson calls this a lie and said he was never told about the hearing, asked to testify, or subpoenaed to testify. Patterson said Vince Foster’s death frightens him. “I’m very, very concerned,” he said.......”

Freeper logos 9/23/99 memo to FBI

“....Memo: To honest FBI agents with integrity and courage

Subject: False Official Reports in connection with the investigation of an Unattended Death

One: The official autopsy protocol concerning the post-mortem examination of one Vincent Foster contains no reference to post-mortem lividity.

Two: As post-mortem lividity is a response of a no-longer-living body to the forces of gravity, it cannot be stopped; neither can it be faked. Nor will it be dissipated until the onset of advanced decomposition.

Three: Based on personal attendance at autopsies over the years and careful perusal of autopsy protocols from autopsies not attended, I can attest that this is the first one I have ever noted where post-mortem lividity was omitted as a finding of the subject autopsy.

Four: As post-mortem lividity is vividly obvious to the naked and untrained eye, it is impossible to accept the premise that it was “overlooked” in the case of Vincent Foster. Untrained police and ambulance attendants, for example, might have mistaken it for massive bruising rather than for what it actually was, but they would not have “missed” it. No certified pathologist, forensic or otherwise, could possibly overlook it.

Five: When are you honest FBI agents, those of you with integrity and courage, going to do your jobs, identify and interview all those who would have seen the unclothed body of Vincent Foster, asking them about any “large bruises” on the body?

Six: When are you honest FBI agents, those of you with integrity and courage, going to do your jobs, and hold to the fire the feet of the pathologist who performed the autopsy of Vincent Foster, and demand to know what he knows about post-mortem lividity in this specific case? He could not have missed it; therefore, he must have omitted any reference to it for a reason.

Purpose: If this story of the trooper is true, the presence and location of post-mortem lividity on the body of Vincent Foster would be far different than if he died where his body was found. For starters, if he died where he was found all signs of post-mortemn lividity would be found on the posterior, or down side of his body (lower back, buttocks, backs of thighs, lower backs of ankles and heels). If he died sitting up in an automobile, post-mortem lividity might also be found in those areas of the body, but they would also be found on some anterior portions of the body (lower abdomen, fronts of ankles, and tops of feet). Since post-mortem lividity “sets” fairly quickly in warm to hot weather, if any post-mortem lividity was present on any anterior location of Vincent Foster’s body, that is prima facia evidence that his body was moved after death. ....”

Washington Weekly 9/27/99 “…..

After experiencing some technical difficulties at its launch last week, the www.FBIcover-up.com website containing the 511-page Patrick Knowlton report recently unsealed by a three-judge panel is now up and running.

From the website: This web site contains a document filed in the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, Special Division for the Purpose of Appointing Independent Counsels, in re: Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan Association (Whitewater). It was filed on June 23, 1999, under seal, on behalf of Patrick Knowlton. On September 14, 1999, the three-judge panel of the Special Division of the Court ordered that the filing be unsealed……. “

U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit 10/26/99

“….No. 98-5535 Accuracy in Media, Inc., Appellant v. National Park Service, Appellee Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of Columbia No. 97cv02109) ……. Williams, Circuit Judge: Accuracy in Media, Inc. (”AIM”) applied under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. s 552 (”FOIA”), for photos of the body of the late Deputy White House counsel Vincent W. Foster, Jr., taken at the scene of his death and at the autopsy (as well as other documents about which there is no longer any dispute)…..

We have already held that the protected privacy interests do extend beyond the interests of a document’s subject while alive, see Camp- bell v. U.S. Department of Justice, 164 F.3d 20, 33-34 D.C. Cir. 1998), and we adhere to that view…..”

U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit 10/26/99

“….Specifically, AIM relies on three statements about Foster’s wounds that differ from the conclusion reached by the two congressional inquiries and the two independent counsels, namely, that Foster had an entrance wound in the mouth and an exit wound in the back of the head, which are consistent with suicide. First, a paramedic who was at the scene, reported the wound as an entrance wound at the neck. Second, a Dr. Donald Haut, of the Fairfax County medical examiner’s office, examined Foster at Ft. Marcy Park and filed a report that described Foster’s wounds on one page as “perforating gunshot wound mouth-head” and on the next as “mouth to neck.” Finally, an FBI memo states there was no exit wound at all.

U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit 10/26/99

“….We find AIM’s evidence considerably below the threshold. The Starr Report characterizes the exit wound as three inches from the top of the head. Starr Report at 31. De- pending on what one views as the “top” of the head, the discrepancy between this and assertions of a neck exit wound may be matters of characterization. Further, the paramedic, after reviewing photos (presumably ones belonging to the disputed set), admitted that he may have been mistaken about Foster having a neck wound. Starr Report at 34 n.77. Dr. Haut’s report is internally inconsistent, with one assertion consistent with the later reports from Congress and the two independent counsels. AIM asserts that the consistent entry on Dr. Haut’s report was the product of an alteration. On the photocopy that is part of our record, there does appear to be a deletion on Dr. Haut’s typed report just before the word “head,” so we cannot rule out AIM’s speculation that “neck” had appeared but was deleted.

Without more, however, the possibility that “neck” ever appeared in the now-empty space is hardly “compelling evidence” that any government actor has behaved illegally.

At least while completing that part of the report, Dr. Haut presumably thought “head” correct.

Finally, the FBI memo reporting that there was no exit wound is a puzzling document of unknown origin. But it merely purports to offer “preliminary results” and is date- stamped “July 23, 1993,” only three days after Foster died.

U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit 10/26/99 “….When multiple agencies and personnel converge on a com- plex scene and offer their hurried assessments of details, some variation among all the reports is hardly so shocking as to suggest illegality or deliberate government falsification.

Nor does it suggest that the congressional or independent counsel inquiries got anything wrong regarding Foster’s wounds. The Starr Report is altogether credible in its assertion that the photos are “[s]ome of the best evidence” of the nature of Foster’s wounds, Starr Report at 16, and those who have viewed them have concluded that Foster suffered an entrance wound in the mouth and an exit wound in the back of the head.

The likelihood that the photos contradict the statements of all four investigating agencies seems remote. While we agree that falsification by the agencies would show government illegality—under the present facts, indeed, illegality on a massive scale—there is no persuasive evidence of such falsification, much less compelling evidence.

UPI Wire 10/26/99 “…..A federal appeals court Tuesday refused to release autopsy photos of the late White House aide Vince Foster to the conservative group, Accuracy in Media. A number of investigations, including one by then-independent counsel Kenneth Starr, determined that Foster had committed suicide in 1993, but Accuracy in Media claimed a fresh examination of the photos would be “crucial for getting the truth” about how the Clinton aide really died……”

Judicial Watch 10/27/99 Joe Giganti “….On October 26, the U.S. Supreme Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit issued an opinion affirming the lower court’s decision not to release to Accuracy in Media, Inc. (AIM) crime scene photos of White House Deputy Counsel Vincent Foster, who was found dead on July 20, 1993. AIM, a non-profit media watchdog organization, has been investigating the Foster death since 1994. Its investigation has been severely hampered by the unexplained disappearance of many crime scene photos and all autopsy X-rays.

The U.S. Park Police investigators naively concluded that a gun in Foster’s hand was proof that he killed himself. A photo of this revolver that was leaked to the media shows the importance of photos in determining whether or not the findings of the official investigations are valid.

The photo shows that the explanation the police gave for the gun not having fallen from Foster’s hand when it was fired is false. They claimed Foster’s thumb was stuck in the trigger guard and that the gun had to be partially cocked to slip it down past his thumb joint. The photo shows only the tip of the thumb in the trigger guard. The gun was not stuck on the thumb…….

Judicial Watch 10/27/99 Joe Giganti “….The most important discrepancy exposed by a crime scene photo is the government’s denial of a wound on Foster’s neck.

Miquel Rodriguez, the prosecutor hired by Starr to investigate this case, ordered a blow up of an original Polaroid of the right side of Foster’s neck. It showed what has been described as “a dime-sized wound...marked by a black stippled ring...suggestive of a .22 caliber gunshot fired at point blank range.”

It is located where paramedic Richard Arthur said he saw a small-caliber bullet wound, under the jaw line near the ear. The Fiske Report says that the crime-scene and the autopsy photos don’t show such a wound.

Dr. Brian Blackbourne, Starr’s pathologist, admitted that the autopsy photos showed a mark on “the side of the right upper neck just below the jaw line.” He claimed it was “small fragments of dried blood” that had escaped being washed off before the photos were taken.

Another expert says Blackbourne could not possibly tell that from a photograph. There is no evidence that any of these pathologists were shown the Polaroid blow up that Rodriguez had made…..”

Judicial Watch 10/27/99 Joe Giganti “….It is obvious that the U.S. Park Service is fighting the release of the crime scene photos because they expose deliberate efforts by government investigators to cover up evidence that proves that Vince Foster did not die the way their reports say he did.

The reason and nature of the death is important because Foster was involved in the issue of FBI files and other improper matters. “AIM intends to file a petition for a rehearing en banc with the appeals court,” said Larry Klayman, Chairman and General Counsel of Judicial Watch…..”

BQ’s View 11/5/99 Blanquita Cullum “….Mike McNulty tells us that Vince Foster was the White House point man for Waco, and, before his death, was writing a letter about Waco that Webster Hubble was having a “very difficult” time with ...

Hubble tried to convince Foster not to release this letter ...

Afterward, Foster’s widow said in testimony to the FBI that Foster had been bothered the most, among all his problems, by the death of all the children at Waco ... ...

These and other findings have been revealed by producer-researcher McNulty in an amazing documentary of what happened at the Branch Davidian compound ... ... “

NewsMax.com 11/4/99 Carl Limbacher “….A new documentary film on the Waco massacre ties late deputy White House counsel Vince Foster, former Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton to the April 19, 1993 conflagration that took the lives of more than 50 adults and two dozen children…….

But with a wrongful death civil suit brought by Davidian relatives, the ongoing investigation of a Waco special prosecutor and renewed interest in the massacre in several Congressional offices, Waco’s Foster-Hubbell-Hillary axis could prove to be the most problematic for the White House. It’s long been known that Hubbell was the Justice Department’s point man on Waco. But the roles played by Foster and Mrs. Clinton have been overlooked until now.

For evidence of a Foster connection, McNulty sources Dennis Sculimbrene, a retired FBI agent formerly assigned to conduct background checks at the Clinton White House. …..”

NewsMax.com 11/4/99 Carl Limbacher “….In the film, Sculimbrene says on camera: “(Foster) had a lot of things on his plate, the firing of the travel office being one of them. But nobody was killed in that.

What I really think was on his mind was Waco. To this day, I don’t understand what he meant by ‘the FBI lied.’”

Three months after Waco, Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park. Investigators have ruled his death a suicide. In a note officials say Foster wrote ten days earlier, the fomer Rose lawyer complained, “the FBI lied to the AG (attorney general).”

Though handwriting experts disagree on the authenticity of that note, those who believe Foster wrote it suggest it shows that he suspected Attorney General Janet Reno had been tricked into approving the deadly Waco raid. …..”

NewsMax.com 11/4/99 Carl Limbacher “…..Sculimbrene adds: “When you are troubled by something and feel responsible for something, you can only feel responsible for it if you could have done something about it.

Perhaps Mr. Foster felt that he could have done something about Waco. Whether he tried to intervene, whether he was overruled...”

Sculimbrene’s comments are followed by an excerpt from the November 19, 1998 Congressional testimony of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr: “.....The extensive use of governmental privileges against grand jury and criminal investigations has, of course, been a pattern through this administration. Most notably, the White House cited privilege in 1993 to prevent Justice Department and Park Police officials from reviewing documents in Vincent Foster’s office in the days after his tragic death.

” …...Sculimbrene: “The day after Vince Foster died, I got a phone call from a fella working on the case who told me that they, not explaining who they were; that they had agreed that the FBI was going to come over and do a regular crime scene search of Vince Foster’s office.”

NewsMax.com 11/4/99 Carl Limbacher “….Narrator Whitehurst: “During the Whitewater investigation, (Foster’s secretary) Deborah Gorham testified that she saw a Waco file in the security file cabinet next to Mr. Foster’s desk. In addition, Michael Chertoff, counsel to the Senate committee, inquired about a letter by Vince Foster involving Waco.

Neither was ever recovered during or after the crime scene search and their whereabouts are still unknown.”

Whitehurst notes that uniformed Secret Service officer Henry O’ Neill testified that he saw the first lady’s chief of staff Maggie Williams removing documents from Foster’s office the night he died.

Williams denied removing documents that night, but did admit she took documents two days later and stored them in the first lady’s living quarters’ closet.

In the film, White House intern Thomas Castleton testifies before the Senate Whitewater Committee in 1995, “I was told (by Williams) that the contents of the box needed to be reviewed by the first lady.”

McNulty concludes this line of inquiry with the account of T. March Bell, who was a member of the 1995 House Waco investigation staff: “One of the interesting things that happens in an investigation is that you get anonymous phone calls. And we in fact received anonymous phone calls from Justice Department managers and attorneys who believe that pressure was placed on Janet Reno by Webb Hubbell, and pressure that came from the first lady of the United States.” …..”

NewsMax.com 11/4/99 Carl Limbacher “….At a post-screening press conference, Bell explained that phone logs suggest Hillary, Foster and Hubbell worked on Waco together: “Those phone logs were Webb Hubbell’s phone logs. There were calls from the first lady and Vince Foster to Webb Hubbell’s office,” during the Waco crisis. Bell said Mrs. Clinton grew more and more impatient as the Waco standoff came to dominate the headlines during the early months of the Clinton administration. It was she, Bell’s source claims, who pressured a reluctant Janet Reno to act….”

Wall Street Journal 1/6/00 Barbara Olson “….Hillary Rodham Clinton’s transformation from her husband’s campaign manager and chief apologist to a politician in her own right moved closer to fruition this week. On Tuesday, two 26-foot moving vans lumbered onto Old House Lane in Chappaqua, N.Y., to disgorge Mrs. Clinton’s possessions into her new home.

The White House insisted that the Clintons had paid their own moving bills and delivered their own furniture.

But it was hard not to doubt this assertion, given that White House secretary Carolyn Huber, a former assistant at the Rose Law Firm, was in charge of unpacking in Chappaqua.

Ms. Huber, remember, had earned her 15 minutes of fame by “discovering” missing Whitewater billing records in a White House residence room Mrs. Clinton was using……

Mr. Starr apparently concluded that he had no legal authority to seek an indictment of a sitting president. But Mr. Clinton could yet face indictment after his term ends for lying and perhaps for helping to fleece a federally insured savings institution.

And if anything, Mrs. Clinton—who has testified in the Whitewater inquiry six times—had a more direct and incriminating role in that scandal than her husband.

The evidence is overwhelming that she worked more intensively on Whitewater matters than she ever admitted.

The billing records onto which Ms. Huber stumbled had been subject to congressional and independent counsel subpoenas for months. They might have been among the documents in White House deputy counsel Vince Foster’s office the night of his death.

When those billing records were finally examined, they showed that Mrs. Clinton’s involvement in the underlying savings-and-loan misconduct while she was a lawyer at the Rose firm in Arkansas was much greater than she had stated.

Her possible role in hiding these records from the investigators is an important area of vulnerability as we saw in the indictment of Webster Hubbell, which identified Mrs. Clinton more than 30 times as the “1985-86 billing partner.”

Moreover, her conduct—and that of her chief of staff, Maggie Williams, and White House counsel Bernard Nussbaum—in collecting and concealing records from Foster’s office has also never been satisfactorily explained, and could be part of a perjury and obstruction of justice indictment…”

American Spectator 2/96 James Ring Adams R Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. “…..Erskine Bowles moved on to the White House, where he is now deputy chief of staff.) With this level of interest in Hale, it becomes an even more striking coincidence that the FBI in Little Rock obtained its search warrant for Hale’s office on the morning of july 20, 1993, just hours before Vincent Foster left the White House for the last time.

The search warrant specified files on Susan Me Dou- gal’s Master Marketing loan as one of its targets.

The Kennedy notes show that both the Hale case and the RTC criminal referrals were oil the agenda for that November 5, 1993 meeting of seven lawyers that was a turning point in the White House effort at damage control.

The notes record one focus of the meeting under the euphemistic talking point, “try to find out what’s going on in investigation.”

The two investigations discussed at length were the indictment of David Hale and the RTC’s look at Madison contributions to CIinton’s campaign fund. (The notes make the startling comment that the FBI subpoena to Hale might have been a “factor” in Vincent Foster’s death.)

In one overlooked but damning line, Kennedy wrote “RTC — people trying to get BC [Bill Clinton] and JGT [rim Guy Tucker].” This line comes just before the much discussed note: “Vacuum [space] Rose Law files space] WWDC [Whitewater Development Co.] Does — subpoena.”

The seven lawyers at the meeting, four of whom were on the federal payroll, seemed to regard the RTC’s work as the product of a personal vendetta and hence fair game for interference.

Certainly the meeting produced immediate results. On November 9, the “powers that be” removed Jean Lewis from the Madison case, as she noted in an e-mail to her Kansas City superiors….”

NewsMax 12/27/99 “….Congressional investigators never got a straight answer when they asked whether President Clinton, along with top White House aides, had entered Vince Foster’s office on the night Foster died. Barbara Olson, former Chief Investigative Counsel for the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, told NewsMax.com on Monday that a White House memo pointing to the secret Clinton visit raised probers’ eyebrows.

The memo, prepared in anticipation of Congressional hearings into the Travelgate scandal by administration lawyers Jane Sherburne and Miriam Nemetz, places Clinton in Foster’s office on July 20, 1993, sometime after the White House learned of the lawyer’s death:

“(Mark) Gearan had conversations with (Bernie) Nussbaum preparing for the press briefing during which Nussbaum said he had looked in Foster’s office for a (suicide) note and had not found one. After the President had come back from Foster’s office, Gearan spoke with (David) Gergen; Gergen was calling from the Residence.”

(Draft Memo: Sherburne & Nemetz, May 15, 1996 — Investigation of the White House Travel Office Firings and Related Matters — page 663) ……

Had there been corroboration that the President himself was a part of the search party, it would have added a dramatic new wrinkle to what many still suspect was an effort to sanitize the room of damaging evidence. But Olson, who spoke to NewsMax.com during a WABC radio interview with Landmark Legal Foundation’s Mark Levin, said that the Travelgate Committee was never able to clear up the mystery.

“We asked Jane Sherburne about (her memo placing Clinton in Foster’s office) but never got an answer that led to anything concrete,” Olson said…… “

NewsMax 12/27/99 “….President Clinton has maintained that he did not learn about his lawyer’s death until after an appearance on “Larry King Live,” which was broadcast from the White House the night Foster died.

But at least one other account suggests that Clinton played a role in the Foster office search.

“A make-up artist for CNN’s ‘Larry King Live’ program has told federal investigators that she overheard a conversation indicating that Clinton was aware of Foster’s death before he appeared on the King show live from the White House library,

” reported Christopher Ruddy for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review in 1996. (Ruddy is now NewsMax.com’s Executive Editor.) The make-up artist, later identified as Rose Precopio, said that an unidentified male aide approached Clinton while she was preparing him for TV and said that a note had been found in Foster’s office. Precopio claimed that then-chief of staff Mack McLarty witnessed the exchange. ….

News that Congressional probers suspected Clinton may have secretly entered Foster’s office on the night he died comes just two weeks after Fox News Channel reported that two investigators for the Office of Independent Counsel now doubt the official verdict that Foster killed himself…..”

NewsMax.com 1/5/00 Carl Limbacher “…..On the surface, the two women reportedly helping First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton move into her new New York digs don’t have much in common. But when the history of the Clinton administration is finally written, both former Rose Law clerk Carolyn Huber and onetime Little Rock interior designer Kaki Hockersmith will be remembered primarily for one thing: Their connections to Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster’s 1993 death. Hockersmith, described in Wednesday’s New York Daily News, for instance, as “Hillary’s pal/decorator”, saw to it that White House interiors reflected the Clintons’ unique tastes. Some describe the Hockersmith-Clinton touch as “early Hot Springs” (back when Al Capone used to take it on the lam to the Arkansas party town).

It was Hockersmith’s work remodeling 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. that earned her the dubious distinction of a mention in Foster’s so-called suicide note.

In the midst of his lamentation about the then-burgeoning Travelgate scandal, the Clintons’ soon-to-be-dead Whitewater lawyer detoured to defend Hockersmith’s honor by blaming her cost overruns on a conspiracy of career White House workers: “The Ushers Office plotted to have excessive costs incurred, taking advantage of Kaki and HRC,” Foster wrote in what investigators say was his own hand.

A Vast Ushers Office Conspiracy. Sound familiar? Put that tidbit together with the findings of three leading handwriting experts who in 1995 declared Foster’s note a “bad forgery,” and one might even suspect......Well, never mind.

NewsMax.com 1/5/00 Carl Limbacher “…..Carolyn Huber is an even more interesting character. The media duly noted that the loyal Hillary aide was the very same person who in January 1996 unearthed Mrs. Clinton’s long-subpoenaed Rose Law billing records in the White House Book Room.

Those would be the very same documents that revealed notes scrawled in the margin by Foster himself, along with Mrs. Clinton’s fingerprints right next to some of the more damaging entries.

Were those billing records removed from Foster’s office on the night he died?

Journalists pretend this is still a mystery by conveniently ignoring the fact that Huber, along with Maggie Williams, Harry Thomason and Susan Thomases, was one of four people Mrs. Clinton called immediately after she learned of Foster’s death…….

And Huber? Consider her reaction when she stumbled across Mrs. Clinton’s Rose Law records in 1996. According to Hillary biographer Gail Sheehy: “A jittery Huber called the Clintons’ personal attorney, David Kendall, to report her find.....

’Where were these?’, (White House lawyer Jane) Sherburne demanded. Distresssed to the point of trembling, Huber stammered that she had earlier come across them on a table in the Book Room on the third floor of the residence.

That set off more alarm bells for Sherburne. The Book Room was right next to a room Hillary sometimes used as an office.” Sheehy continues, “After a brief huddle with other lawyers, Sherburne went back at Huber with more probing questions. How did these records get from the Book Room to her office? When? What was the sequence? Huber became very confused.

She had brought them over from the residence three months ago, she said; no, maybe five months ago; no, ten months; maybe eight months.” …..

Huber’s “confusion” becomes understandable in the context of something else Sheehy reports: “Carolyn Huber was handed the Clintons’ personal files that were removed from Vince Foster’s office in the days after his July 1993 suicide.

Two days after Foster’s death, Hillary had asked Huber to transfer the documents to a locked closet in the personal quarters of the White House. They were kept in the Book Room, next to a space that Hillary occasionally used as an office.” …..”

NewsMax.com 1/19/2000 Carl Limbacher “…. She had to go to Buffalo before she got hit with a tough question. But as Hillary Clinton’s Wednesday morning interviewer told her, “I’m no Matt Lauer”; a reference to the NBC host who helped her spin Monicagate as “A Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.”

To prove his point, WGR-AM radio’s Tom Bauerle broke the mainstream media’s Vince Foster taboo and asked the First Lady whether she’d ever cheated on her husband with the late Deputy White House counsel……

HILLARY: Well, you know, Tom, I do hate you for that. Because, you know, those questions I think are really out of bounds. And everybody who knows me knows the answers to those questions. You know, I just.... BAUERLE: Is the answer no? HILLARY: Well, yes. Of course it’s no. But it’s an inappropriate question.. ..

When she told the Buffalo radio audience that everyone who knows her realizes the Foster stories are untrue, Mrs. Clinton must have forgotten about longtime F.O.B., former White House personnel director David Watkins.

A close friend of the Clintons who goes back with the President to their boyhood days together in Hope, Arkansas, Watkins told The American Spectator in 1996: “Ileene (Watkins’ wife) was told soon after we arrived in Washington that Vince and Hillary were involved in a love affair.

She was told by someone who was very close to Vince. And they said it was not idle speculation — everyone in Vince’s family knew about it.”

Watkins is corroborated by at least two of the Clintons’ state trooper bodyguards, each of whom has spoken publicly about catching Hillary and Foster in physically compromising situations…..”

Washington Weekly 1/31/2000 Marvin Lee “…..On January 19, U.S. Senate candidate Hillary Clinton was asked by Buffalo, NY radio host Tom Bauerle whether there was any truth to the stories that she had had an affair with White House Deputy Counsel Vince Foster who was found dead in Fort Marcy Park in 1993: ….

Former Arkansas State Trooper L.D. Brown, who was assigned to the security detail of then-Governor Bill Clinton, disagrees. “As to the Vince Foster affair, it was real and torrid at that. I know, I saw it and Hillary and I talked about it,” he tells the Washington Weekly. “I think she showed her true colors by taking up the interviewer on his offer to hate him.”

L.D. Brown describes the love affair between Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster, as he witnessed it, in his book Crossfire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation, where he points out that: It has amazed me that the subject has been taboo in the ‘mainstream media.’ Especially after he committed suicide, a serious discussion of motive could not be undertaken until that variable had been included in any hypothesis.

Chapter Five, “The True Loves of Their Lives,” from Crossfire is reprinted with permission in its entirety in this issue of the Washington Weekly…..”

NewsMax.com 2/20/00 Carl Limbacher “….. For those familiar with the Ruddy-Scaife history there’s little doubt about what most irks the First Lady. Just peruse a copy of the White House’s Hillary inspired “Communication Stream of Conspiracy Commerce” and you’ll see that Ruddy’s writings questioning the so-called suicide of Vince Foster — and Scaife’s courageous support of Ruddy’s investigation — have driven the White House positively bonkers.

So it’s doubly odd that Hubbell should be the chosen vehicle for Clintonian vengeance. Recall, on the night of Foster’s death Hubbell himself told longtime Rose Law colleague Phillip Carroll, “Don’t believe a word you hear. It wasn’t a suicide. It couldn’t have been.” (”The Death of Hope,” Esquire Magazine — Nov. 1993)

While touting his 1997 book Friends in High Places on Bob Grant’s nationally syndicated talk radio show, NewsMax.com caught up with Hillary’s former Rose Law partner. What about his “Don’t believe it’s a suicide...” quote, we wanted to know?

“The night that Vince died was one of the most terrible nights of my life,” Hubbell told NewsMax.com. “Phil Carroll was (Vince’s) closest partner back in Little Rock. He was his mentor. But he was also Catholic. And I know how strongly Phil felt about suicide and couldn’t believe it.” ……..

Back when Hubbell was still the number three man at Justice, the First Lady actually asked him to investigate rumors that a Navy “hit team” had taken Foster out. If Hubbell’s Vast Right Wing Conspiracy lawsuit against Ruddy and Scaife ever actually materializes, perhaps we’ll see a courtroom examination of his and Hillary’s own Foster suicide doubts.......”

Newsmax.com 3/4/00 “…..The discovery of the White House’s long-lost e-mails was first reported by Insight Magazine in December 1998. But along with this cache of evidence, Insight also revealed that “thousands of pages of White House telephone records,” covering the period of January 1992 through December 1998, had been found. Although Insight didn’t say so, this meant that evidence may exist to prove the claims of two Arkansas state troopers, who say they were told about Foster’s death before police had informed even the White House — perhaps even before his body was discovered.

Troopers Roger Perry and Larry Patterson, who were assigned to the Arkansas governor’s mansion the day Foster died, told investigators in 1995 that White House aide Helen Dickey called to report that Foster had shot himself in the parking lot. Dickey’s call, insist the lawmen, came at least an hour before police notified the White House.

Both Perry and Patterson filed sworn affidavits to back their accounts.

But Ms. Dickey told Foster case probers she didn’t make that call till at least 10:30pm, more than four hours after the White House lawyer’s body had been found.

Independent Counsel Ken Starr sided with Dickey, mainly because he was unable to find proof of the troopers’ account. His report on Foster’s death states simply: “Complete records for such calls are not available.” …..

When troopers Perry and Patterson were invited to testify before the Senate Whitewater Committee in February 1996, they urged investigators to press the White House on telephone records for July 20, 1993; records that would prove whether it was they — or Helen Dickey — who told the truth about the timing of her Foster phone call.

When senate investigators failed to do so the troopers declined to testify, fearing that in the absence of proof they would be smeared as disgruntled Clinton-haters. …..”

World Net Daily 3/24/00 Charles Smith “……. The ghost of Vincent Foster still haunts President Clinton. Documented contradictions in a newly released medical report — which does not match a previous, publicly available copy — are raising renewed questions about Foster’s death.

Los Angeles attorney Allan Favish obtained the report from the Office of Independent Counsel through the Freedom of Information Act. Favish has additional information about the Foster death at his website. ……… Favish’s interest, and the purpose of his FOIA request, was to inspect the original version of the report for alterations, to see if it had been improperly changed to conceal evidence of a neck wound, the existence of which the government denies. ………

His interest was piqued by the fact that the official record of the Foster death investigation contains unresolved contradictory information about the nature of a reported exit wound.

Dr. Donald Haut, the only medical doctor to examine Foster’s body where it was found, wrote a two-page “Report of Investigation by Medical Examiner,” apparently signed on the day of death.

Page one of Haut’s report states the death shot was “mouth-head,” but page two of the report states that the death shot was “mouth to neck.” ……… Although Haut’s report is not reproduced in any publicly available government publication, it is available from the National Archives, and it is quoted in the Senate Banking Committee’s January 1995 report on the Foster death.

The Senate Committee’s report quotes from both pages of Haut’s report and fails to note that the quoted language is contradictory, i.e., “mouth-head” and “mouth to neck.” ……”

World Net Daily 3/24/00 Charles Smith “……. A “mouth to neck” description is significant because it contradicts the official autopsy conclusion of “mouth to head” and the conclusions of Independent Counsels Robert Fiske and Kenneth Starr. Starr’s report on the Foster death says the autopsy report “indicates ‘backward’ and ‘upward’ as the direction of the bullet through the head”.

The doctor who performed the autopsy said the exit wound was “three inches from the top of the head.” …….. Haut’s report of a neck wound takes on even more significance in light of additional evidence: One such wound was reported to be an entrance wound on the side of the neck. Starr said that paramedic Richard Arthur, “initially said he saw what ‘appeared to be a bullet wound, an entrance wound’ on the neck.”

Not mentioned by Starr is that Arthur testified he was only two to three feet away from Foster when he observed the apparent bullet wound on the right side of Foster’s neck, around the jaw line and underneath the right ear.

But even Starr’s expert, Dr. Brian Blackbourne, said an autopsy photo showed there was “dried blood” at the neck location, although he said the photo did not show any injury to the neck. ………..

The issue of possible alteration raises serious questions, because it is improper to alter a medical record that completely obscures words. According to a leading textbook on medical record-keeping, “Mastering Documentation,” proper alteration of a medical record is done by lining out any words that need to be corrected so that all the original words can be recognized, and then initialing and dating the change. ……….

In a declaration submitted in response to the Haut report FOIA lawsuit, Associate Independent Counsel Julie A. Corcoran states that the office of the independent counsel does not have the original version of the Haut report. She states, “at the time of the FOIA request” the independent counsel had “a certified copy of the report sought, not the original report.” ......”

World Net Daily 3/24/00 Charles Smith “……. The copy in the National Archives and the copy from the independent counsel were both certified by the autopsy doctor, James Beyer, who was assistant chief medical examiner at the time. Beyer’s certification on the National Archives copy is dated November 2, 1994. However, his certification on the independent counsel copy is dated January 30, 1995.

In addition, Beyer certified both pages of the National Archives copy, but only the first page of the Independent counsel copy. Neither Fiske nor Starr addressed the inconsistency with Haut’s report, except by hiding them from the public. Fiske’s report failed to mention Haut’s medical report.

And Starr’s report, released publicly in October 1997, quotes from the possibly altered language on page one of Haut’s report that states “mouth-head,” but does not quote the “mouth to neck” language on page two. According to Favish, the independent counsel was made aware in February 1998 that the copy of the Haut report found at the National Archives might have been improperly altered. …….”

Committee On Government Reform and Oversight 9/24/96 Deposition of Craig Livingstone “...

Mr. Burton. On the evening of July 20th, when you were at Vince Foster’s home, did anyone speak to you about removing any documents or any other items from Vince Foster’s office?

The Witness. Absolutely not.

Mr. Burton. The White House Counsel’s Office?

The Witness. Absolutely not.

Mr. Burton. Or anyplace else in the White House?

The Witness. Absolutely not.

Mr. Burton. Were you at the White House the morning of July 21st, 1993, the morning after the death of Vince Foster?

The Witness. I believe that I was.

Mr. Burton. At what time did you arrive at the White House that morning? And I will follow up by saying in your July 10th, 1995 deposition, with the Senate Whitewater Committee, you stated that you arrived at the White House at roughly 8:14 a.m. However, a chronology prepared by Jane Sherburne states that you arrived at the White House around 7:15 a.m. You stand by that statement that you are sure you did not go into his office?

The Witness. It doesn’t refresh my memory today, sir, but I think that is basically what I just told you, I did not believe that I went in the office.

Mr. Burton. Secret Service Agent Bruce Abbott has stated under oath that he observed you and another man carrying a briefcase and a box of papers out of the elevator that goes to the second floor of the White House in the vicinity of Vince Foster’s office on the morning of July 21st. He reported that you both left the building through the West Executive Avenue exit. You were carrying the briefcase. The young man was carrying the box. He was very explicit about this in his description of both the box and the briefcase, quote: “I would describe it as a leather or vinyl briefcase opening from the top, much in the fashion of a litigator’s bag or a lawyer’s briefcase with a strap over the top. I would describe it as opening in a clam shell fashion on the top. I observed that individual carrying one or perhaps two boxes with what appeared to be loose-leaf binders stacked vertically. That is what they appeared to be.” Did you remove a box, a briefcase or any documents from the White House Counsel’s Office that morning?

Mr. Turk. Congressman, what you just read was a quotation from Agent Abbott?

Mr. Burton. Yes.

Mr. Turk. And did he make that statement to this committee, or — I am not sure what you are reading from. I see that it’s a prepared document for the examination.

Mr. Burton. Yes. He was under oath, and here is his testimony right here.

Mr. Turk. This is testimony — is this in the House? This is the Senate Banking Committee.

Mr. Burton. Right.

Mr. Turk. And the question is?

Mr. Burton. The question is: Did you remove a box, a briefcase or any documents from the White House Counsel’s Office that morning?

The Witness. I don’t have any recollection of doing so. I don’t believe that I did so. Anything other than pursuant to my normal duties.

Mr. Burton. But you can’t categorically say that you did not remove any documents, any briefcase or any box from the Counsel’s Office?

The Witness. I can categorically say that I did not remove anything from Vince Foster’s office. I can categorically say that —

Mr. Turk. Can you categorically say whether or not you understood that anything that you may have been carrying out of the White House at any time that day, categorically understood, you did not — you did not understand that anything you carried out of the White House that day was containing anything from Vince Foster’s office?

The Witness. I can absolutely categorically state that.

Mr. Burton. That nothing that you took out of the White House or from the second floor that day was out —

Mr. Turk. If he took something.

The Witness. If at all; and I don’t believe that’s the case.

Mr. Burton. Okay. Did you remove a box, a briefcase or any documents from anywhere else on the second floor of the White House that morning?

The Witness. I have no knowledge of this alleged incident. I can’t account for what the officer says he saw, sir.

Mr. Burton. Okay. We will pursue that.

Mr. Turk. Part of the problem is, you may recall, Congressman, is that this allegation surfaces long after the events, and Mr. Abbott made no — you know, didn’t ever report this.

Mr. Burton. There’s more than just one or two people that substantiate the statements that he made.

Mr. Turk. Who else?

Mr. Burton. I am going to go into that.

Mr. Turk. Okay.

Mr. Burton. Bruce Abbott’s supervisor Secret Service Officer Dennis Martin has stated under oath that Officer Abbott told him that same morning that he witnessed you and the other man carrying this box and briefcase down from the second floor. He did not just make this up later on. These two Secret Service guys have 30 years’ combined service. I am giving this for background information. Park Police Detective Peter Markland has stated under oath that he stopped you in the White House later that morning and asked you if you had taken a box of papers out of Vince Foster’s office. He stated again, under oath, that you did not deny bringing a box of papers from the second floor, but you said they came from somewhere other than Vince Foster’s office. Is that true?

The Witness. I don’t recall the instance.

Mr. Burton. You don’t remember this instance?

The Witness. No.

Mr. Burton. Do you know Peter Markland?

The Witness. I don’t know Peter Markland.

Mr. Turk. Do you know who he is?

The Witness. I know who he is.

Charles Smith WorldNetDaily.com 4/00 “……. A newly released certified copy of a Virginia medical report on Vincent Foster, whose controversial death was officially ruled a suicide, suggests that officials may have altered a copy of the report the Virginia Medical Examiner gave to Ken Starr and the Office of Independent Counsel of 1995. The most recent copy of the certified report, obtained by WorldNetDaily, is clearly different from Starr’s copy. …………

According to an exclusive WorldNetDaily interview with attorney Allan Favish, there are now three known, publicly available certified copies of the original version of the report.

“The first and third of the certified copies show what appears to have been a sloppy attempt to obliterate a word on the original version using correction fluid or tape,” stated Favish during an interview near his Los Angeles home.

“The second certified copy, obtained from the Office of the Independent Counsel, does not show any evidence of this possible alteration,” said Favish. “This raises the question of whether the Virginia medical examiner gave the independent counsel altered evidence,” noted Favish..........,

“[As to] the cause of death — the ‘mouth-head’ language on page one appears to have been altered on the original with correction fluid or tape, almost completely concealing what appears to be a four-letter word, and leaving small black marks that appear to be the remnants of four letters. That would be improper.” ......”

Senate Whitewater Hearings Volume 12/13/95 Testimony of William Burton “…… Sworn Testimony of C. William Burton, Former Policy and Staff Director for The Chief of Staff to the President.

Mr. Chertoff: Mr. Burton, do you recognize the number 202-628-7087?

Mr. Burton: Yes sir.

Mr. Chertoff: How do you recognize the number?

Mr. Burton: Shortly before the hearing started, I was given some papers by one of the Committee staff members and the number is that so-called mystery number that has been in question in front of this panel, and that’s where I saw the number for the first time.......

Mr. Chertoff: This is really a simply point. You don’t need to struggle with it. It’s just common sense. There are apparently numbers at the White House that allow people to bypass the switchboard, right?

Mr. Burton: Yes sir.

Mr. Chertoff: You know from your own experience because you knew you had one number?

Mr. Burton: Yes sir.

Mr. Chertoff: Now, somewhere in the White House someone has those numbers?

Mr. Burton: I assume that is the case, yes, sir……

Mr. Chertoff: Now, let me ask you about the night of the [July, 1993] 20th. You were in Mr. McLarty’s office?

Mr. Burton: I was there most of the day. I was there shortly before the Larry King show started that the President was appearing live on that night.........................

Mr. Chertoff: You were up there when Mr. McLarty spoke to the President after the show?

Mr. Burton: Yes, sir.

Mr. Chertoff: Did you know that the President called the First Lady?

Mr. burton: I found out later that he had called the First Lady.

Mr. Chertoff: Then, at some time after 10 p.m you returned to the Chief of Staff’s office?

Mr. Burton: Yes, sir. ……..

Mr. Chertoff: Now, we have received a letter from the White House indicating that you recall that at what would have been 11:41 Eastern time and what was 10:41 Little Rock time you had a conversation with the First Lady.

Mr. Burton: I recall having a conversation with the First Lady that night. I did not remember the time. The time you just described is not inconsistent with what I remember.

Mr. Chertoff: How did you come to have that conversation?

Mr. Burton: I was in Mr. McLarty’s private office most of the evening, and at some point that night I received a call from the First Lady. I don’t remember if I answered the phone or if Ms. Mathews answered the phone and transferred the call in to me. I don’t remember who answered the phone. It was the First Lady, and we had a personal conversation about Mr. Foster’s death. It lasted about 10 or 15 minutes to the best of my recollection.

Mr. Chertoff: Now, was the First Lady looking for you?

Mr. Burton: That’s my recollection.

Mr. Chertoff: So you pick up the phone and the First Lady says what?

Mr. Burton: I do not remember the precise words used during the conversation. I do remember the call quite well and remember the general areas we discussed……

Mr. Chertoff: Did she say why — and I will put this in context for you, because she made very few calls that evening, and as she described it in her affidavit, she called some of her closest friends and colleagues. She called Maggie Williams and Harry Thomasson, she spent 20 minutes on the phone with Susan Thomases and then immediately hung up and within a moment called the mystery number, had a 10 minute conversation, then called Carolyn Huber, a very old friend from Arkansas, and then called her brother. Now, in the midst of these calls to these very, very close people, there’s a call to what you have now told us is to you for 10 minutes. Are you a very close friend of the First Lady?

Mr. Burton: I consider myself a friend of the First Lady. I don’t know that you would go so far as to say a close personal friend. I used to work with the First Lady. I knew Governor Clinton in the mid-1970s……

Mr. Burton: That’s right. This may help to put it in context. Mr. McLarty had taken me up to the residence when he was going to notify the President about the death of Mr. Foster, the suicide of Mr. Foster because I had talked to the Park Police and was the point person in the White House at that time who knew about that and who knew the details in the event the President wanted more details about the suicide. Mr. McLarty later advised me that he had notified the First Lady. He said I told her you had talked to the Park Police. If my recollection serves me right, he may have mentioned she may call you to talk about that…..

Mr. Chertoff: Now, as of the time the First Lady called you, had you, in fact, been notified of that notification?

Mr. Burton: Yes, sir. I think I testified previously that I remember that notification because it was, I think, a particularly tender one, a particularly dear one we had to be concerned about. Mrs. Foster had lost her husband maybe the year prior to her son’s suicide and was an elderly woman living in Hope alone in the Foster home. I wanted to absolutely sure she didn’t find out by radio or by television, and even — I didn’t even want her to find out by telephone. So I called George Frazier, who is an older man, a town father figure living in Hope, who had Mrs. Foster earlier in the evening and he and his wife had gone to get the preacher, Reverend Roark in Hope and went to the Foster farm to notify her, I think, at approximately 11:30 or 11:40. I know by that point I had ascertained that Mr. Frazier and his wife had contacted the preacher and were going out there..........

Mr. Chertoff: I want to focus on this conversation. What did you tell her?

Mr. Burton: There’s one thing I specifically remember about that, and I told her whatever it was I knew at the time. I happened to remember specifically talking to her about the placement of the gun in Mr. Foster’s mouth. The reason I remember that is because it made me a little bit uncomfortable telling someone who was a close friend of Mr. Foster about that particular gruesome detail. The reason I decided to tell her that was it was that fact that the Park Policeman, the major lieutenant, whichever one I had talked to had used to tell me, convince me it had in fact been a suicide, it was the fact he used to explain — let me tell you how I know it was a suicide.......

Mr. Burton: I think what she was saying was that in a suicide, often, where you have somebody like Mr. Foster who doesn’t, in his day-to-day life, appear to be somebody despondent, appear to be somebody who is distraught enough to kill himself, how, in fact, they can be depressed. It was just more an explanation to me about it.

Mr. Chertoff: What I am having trouble with here, Mr. Burton, is you begin with her asking you or your volunteering the gruesome detail about the gun being placed in the mouth in order to make Mrs. Clinton aware of your conclusion that it is a suicide rather than a death by another cause; right? Then, immediately, she tells you that she has concluded, based upon her thinking about this, that this was caused by depression. Is this the way the conversation was?

Mr. Burton: A couple of corrections there. One was I was repeating to her the Park Police’s conclusion that it had been a suicide.

Mr. Chertoff: You did this because-—— Mr. Burton: Which I accepted after hearing the details of the scene, I did accept that conclusion.

Mr. Chertoff: From there, she had concluded, based on her experiences talking to Mrs. Gore, that depression often causes suicide and he might have been depressed. I am trying to figure out how you move from telling her it is a suicide to her, as you’ve testified a moment ago, telling you how these things are caused by depression. It seems to me you just told her it is a suicide and now you are telling me she’s come back to you and said she has been reflecting on this and has come up with a cause…..”

WorldNetDaily 5/16/00 Julie Foster “…..Yesterday, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal from a group seeking photographs of White House lawyer Vince Foster taken at the scene of his death in 1993. Accuracy in Media, a media watchdog group, argues the public has a “substantial interest” in the photos because they might show whether the government properly investigated Foster’s death. ...... A large number of inconsistencies, contradictions and even instances of apparent evidence tampering following the mysterious death have never been explained. ……. Through a federal Freedom of Information Act request, Accuracy in Media asked the National Park Service to release photos taken of Foster’s body at the scene of his death and during his autopsy.

But the Park Service refused, citing an exemption for cases in which releasing information would create an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. ……..

AIM appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, arguing the public has a compelling interest to learn the nature of the White House attorney’s death. But the court, without comment, declined to hear the case. “It seems all government institutions are afraid of this issue,” said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which represents AIM. “We will pursue this through other legal means.” ………”

WorldNetDaily 6/10/00 “….. A key witness in the death of White House deputy counsel Vincent Foster charges that so-called “independent” investigations led by Robert Fiske and Kenneth Starr actually relied on FBI agents who had a vested interest in verifying the findings of their agency which, along with the U.S. Park Police, was deeply involved in the probe from the day Foster’s lifeless body was discovered in Fort Marcy Park.

Patrick Knowlton, who happened by the crime scene hours before Foster’s body was found in the park on July 20, 1993, points out the FBI played a large role in the initial investigation, according to key depositions in the case. ……….

The role of the FBI in the initial investigation has been, heretofore, little known. Press reports downplayed the extent of FBI involvement — characterizing it as simply “monitoring” the work of the park police. Days after Foster’s death, Justice Department spokesmen specifically stated that there was no investigation by the FBI. …….”

WorldNetDaily 6/10/00 “….. The breadth of the FBI’s role in the initial 17-day death investigation was documented in a 20-page attachment http://fbicover-up.com/starr/addendum.htm added to Starr’s Report by the three-judge panel on the Special Division of the United States Court of Appeals and released to the public Oct. 10, 1997. Knowlton submitted these 20 pages of official evidence to the court. ………

The evidence in the attachment showed that on the evening of the discovery of Foster’s body, the FBI arranged to send FBI agents Scott Salter and Dennis Condon to the White House to investigate the death. They were dispatched to the White House the following morning, as agent Salter testified June 30, 1995. “(FBI Agent) John Danna called us in my car (on July 21) and told us to go to the southwest gate of the White House and meet him there and that we were ... going to be working on a death investigation involving Mr. Foster’s death,”Salter said in his deposition.

When handed a memorandum and asked to identify it, agent Salter said: “[I]t’s basically a summary of events from the 21st through the conclusion of, through August 4th or 6th or whatever it was, through the conclusion of the investigation that we did.” Salter explained that the FBI’s function was to interview witnesses along with the U.S. Park Police. …….. “

WorldNetDaily 6/10/00 “….. U.S. Secret Service Agent Paul Imbordino, in response to the question at his June 22, 1995, deposition, “Who conducted the interviews?” answered, “Park Police and FBI.” Other FBI agents who conducted interviews during the initial investigation into Foster’s death included Charles K. Dorsey and Bradley J. Garrett. …….

During his July 30, 1994, deposition, U.S. Park Police Maj. Robert Hines testified that the FBI dominated much of the investigation. When asked, “Did there come a time when you determined that [the] Department of Justice was really in charge of this investigation?”, Hines answered, “There came a time when I determined that they were calling a lot of shots, setting-up a lot of protocols ...” ………

The day after the death, July 21, FBI agents met with White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, Assistant White House Counsel Steven Neuwirth and Assistant White House Counsel Clifford Sloan to discuss the search of Foster’s office. In 1995, the Senate held well-publicized hearings concerning Nussbaum’s refusal to let authorities see all the documents he reviewed during the office search on July 22 in the presence of the FBI and the Park Police.

There were allegations that White House personnel searched the office before Nussbaum’s official search. Yet, the FBI had already searched the office and removed evidence, according to a U.S. Secret Service report, written by a technical security division officer. On Aug. 3, 1993, that officer wrote that on July 31, 1993, 11 days after the death, an FBI agent told him of the FBI’s involvement in the case. ......”

WorldNetDaily 6/10/00 “…..The source of the information that “the FBI had removed evidence” was the officer who was there to change the locks on Wednesday, July 21. The FBI was later charged with determining who had secretly ferreted-out documents from Foster’s office in the aftermath of his death and determining what was removed. ……..

Additionally, FBI Special Agent-in-Charge Robert Bryant admitted that a federal assassination statute required the FBI to exercise primary jurisdiction over the case. At an Aug. 10, 1993, press conference, Bryant explained that the FBI ruled the death a suicide. …….. “

NewsMax.com 7/11/00 Carl Limbacher “…..As part of a ruling on Monday ordering a full evidentiary hearing into missing White House e-mails, U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth told the Clinton administration to search for the hard drive in the computer used by the late Vincent Foster, the deputy White House counsel who was found shot to death in a Virginia park seven years ago this month. ……

“The court will also order the search of Vincent Foster’s hard drive due to the fact that there is evidence that Foster as deputy White House counsel at the time of the underlying events in this case had a supervisory role over both then-associate White House counsel William Kennedy and the director of Office of Personnel Security at the time, Craig Livingstone,” Lamberth wrote. …….

Questions about Foster’s computer hard drive have swirled for years. In his 1996 bestselling book Unlimited Access, former White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich revealed that by the time Whitewater investigators finally got around to looking for the drive, it had been deliberately destroyed………”

Just a few added notes: John Whitehead (no picture provided) is a former vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs and has also been a director fo BSI (Banca della Svitzera Italiano), at which Vince Foster was maintaining at least one “numbered” account. Foster, as I have reported, was under counter-intelligence surveillance at the time of his death……..

Also, Ranger Oil today announced it will “go public” by merging with Calgary-based Renaissance Energy. Ranger is a sizeable Canadian integrated oil company controled 95% by Li Ka Shing or his Hutchison Whampoa, with the other 5% by CIBC. It is my experience that when companies seek a public listing by merging with another public company, it is a sleezy way to dodge full disclosure to securities regulators.

This seems especially true in Ranger’s case, since a stated goal of the merger and public listing is to raise new funds to finance Ranger’s large oil and gas finds off Canada’s east coast.

6/20/00 Freeper Tenega

Newsmax.com 8/7/00 Carl Limbacher “….. Ironically, at the height of the impeachment trial in mid-January, something did develop that might have moved Broaddrick to the front burner had it happened weeks earlier. ......,,

Schippers explained the event he learned of too late to include: “There was a time when she was being followed. This was just around the time of the (NBC) interview. She was being followed by a guy who was making it very obvious. That’s how they do it. They get right out there and look at you in order to scare the hell out of you.” ......

The mysterious tail put on Broaddrick is eerily similar to what several witnesses claim happened to them, as they were about to testify before Starr grand juries. ......

Newsmax.com 8/7/00 Carl Limbacher “…..Patrick Knowlton, who happened by Fort Marcy Park the day White House counsel Vince Foster’s body was discovered there, had told the London Telegraph’s Ambrose Evans-Pritchard and NewsMax.com’s Christopher Ruddy that he was followed by a series of men on the streets of D.C. soon after he was subpoenaed for Starr’s Foster investigation. Knowlton’s account, documented in the appendix to Starr’s Foster report, clearly shows that Foster could not have taken his life in the Virginia Park. ......,

Skeptical at first, Ruddy took a walk with Knowlton after the witness reported the harassment. Just as Knowlton claimed, a series of individuals followed and glared at the pair in what Ruddy later reported for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review was a very unnerving attempt to send Knowlton the clear message: Truthful testimony about Vince Foster could be hazardous to one’s health. .........

Though Starr and the media ignored Knowlton’s harassment, prosecutor Schippers told NewsMax.com that he took the account of another Starr witness extremely seriously: “I wanted to put Kathleen Willey on. Because, you talk about intimidation — they did everything but threaten to kill her.

And in fact, they did give her a threat to kill, in a veiled fashion, two days before her deposition.” Schippers recounted Willey’s story about the jogger who approached her, asked about her missing cat, the recent vandalism of her car and then mentioned her children by name. “Don’t you get the message?” the total stranger told the frightened witness. …….”

Newsmax.com 8/7/00 Carl Limbacher “…..But the ex-Chicago prosecutor shared a chilling new aspect of Willey’s ordeal — an account that could have been lifted right from the script of an Alfred Hitchcock film: “The woman was absolutely scared to death. She got a call from the electric company. And they told her they were going to shut off her power and she’d be in total darkness for about 15 minutes.

At first she thought nothing of this. But when it didn’t happen she called them back to ask when they were going to do this. And they said, ‘What are you talking about?’ So that’s the kind of thing that happened to some of these witnesses. That’s how they operate.” …….....”

EtherZone 8/8/00 Samuel Blumenthal “…..But the one book that is unequivocal and unapologetic in its belief that Foster’s death was engineered by the White House is Michael Kellett’s The Murder of Vince Foster, which is dedicated to Foster.

It was published in 1995. Kellett writes: This book is about more than murder. It is about arrogance and the abuse of power. It is about government officials caring more about their careers, money, and their political philosophies than for truth. …… “

EtherZone 8/8/00 Samuel Blumenthal “…..To understand what happened to Vince Foster, one must understand the context in which these events took place.

It seems that in July 1993, federal investigators were about to go through Foster’s files and the files at the Rose Law Firm to find evidence of wrongdoing in the Whitewater affair.

In fact, on the very day of Foster’s death, the F.B.I. issued a subpoena and took records out of the office of Little Rock municipal judge David L. Hale, who later pleaded guilty to defrauding the government and became a key witness in the Whitewater investigation by independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr.

And so, in July 1993, Vince Foster was faced with a dilemma: open his files to the federal investigators or destroy them.

Kellett writes: Clinton and Foster were on the phone the evening of July 19 discussing the impending federal investigation. It was no friendly chat. Foster told Clinton in no uncertain terms that he would not destroy evidence; that he was not going to jail to protect the Bill ‘n’ Hill gang. ...,:

EtherZone 8/8/00 Samuel Blumenthal “….. Kellett quotes Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard defense lawyer, who said: In my 30 years of experience as a criminal defense lawyer, I have noticed one general distinction between the actions of innocent and guilty clients: The innocent save every scrap of paper in the hope and expectation that somewhere in the boxes of files, bills, phone logs, and diaries they will find some proof of their innocence; The guilty, on the other hand, destroy as much as they can, in the fear that somewhere the prosecutor will find something incriminating. ……..

And that’s what the Clintons have been doing all these years, destroying the evidence that would put them behind bars.

And so, a showdown evidently took place between Foster and his Arkansas colleagues over what to do to thwart the federal investigators. Foster would not do what they wanted. His conscience gave him no choice. …..”

EtherZone 8/8/00 Samuel Blumenthal “…..Since Foster could not be persuaded by Clinton and his gang to do what they knew had to be done to save their skins, the decision was made to get rid of him. How was it to be done? Foster’s murder was to be made to look like a suicide.

But his body had to be found quickly, so that they could get into his office as soon as possible.

But where was he to be done in? The night before his death, Foster was visited at his home by Bruce Lindsey and another unidentified Washington lawyer.

Kellett writes: Lindsey was a stock broker in Arkansas, whose firm received big contracts to sell state bonds when Clinton was governor and also contributed heavily to Clinton’s campaigns. He is now Clinton’s personal attorney and it was in his office that numerous Whitewater related files eventually showed up.

Lindsey said the two invited Foster to see a movie, but he declined. ...

Surprisingly, one would think Lindsey, who knew Foster, would have known that Foster was definitely not the type to want to go to a movie with two other middle-aged men on a Monday night. ...

Reader, when was the last time you saw three middle-aged men go to a movie?

Incidentally, Clinton, as part of his 20-minute chat, also invited Foster to come over and see a movie at the White House. And who was with Clinton at the time? None other than Webb Hubbell, the former number two man in the Justice Department who quit when his activities as president of Hillary’s Rose Law Firm started being scrutinized. ….”

EtherZone 8/8/00 Samuel Blumenthal “…..Where did Foster go? His appointment book has never been found. All we know is that at about 5:30 p.m. Foster’s body was discovered at Fort Marcy Park by a witness whose identity was not made public. The Park Police got there at about 6:10 p.m.. ……”

EtherZone 8/8/00 Samuel Blumenthal “…..Normally, the F.B.I. investigates murders and suicides involving government officials. But Clinton had fired F.B.I. chief William Sessions the day before Foster’s death and placed the investigation in the hands of the Park Police whose main functions are chasing litterbugs and issuing parking tickets! The Clintonistas knew that the Park Police could be intimidated by the power of the White House to hand over Foster’s wallet and pager and not question the ransacking of Foster’s office. Someone had already stolen Foster’s briefcase from his car in the park which, six days later, wound up in the White House with a forged “suicide note” torn into 27 pieces.

How did the briefcase get there? Who stole it out of the car? Who forged the note and why weren’t Foster’s fingerprints on it? The Fiske commission never bothered to find out. …….”

NewsMax.com 9/21/00Carl Limbacher “...... A spokesman for the Office of Independent Counsel told NewsMax.com Thursday that its statement closing out the Whitewater probe was “not meant to be comprehensive,” but would not say whether questions about the activities of senior White House officials in the wake of deputy White House counsel Vincent Foster’s death would be addressed in a final Whitewater report. ........

When asked why mention of the Foster office phase of the Whitewater probe was omitted from the OIC’s summary, Ausbrook said, “There are alot of other things that we didn’t mention. We didn’t mention, for instance, that we convicted Larry Kuca in Arkansas.” Kuca, a relatively minor figure in the Whitewater probe, pled guilty to a misdemeanor conspiracy charge and testified against the Clintons’ Whitewater business partners Jim and Susan McDougal. ......... “

NewsMax.com 9/21/00Carl Limbacher “......Issues that emerged in testimony before the Senate Whitewater Committee in 1995, but left unaddressed in Starr’s Foster report as well as Ray’s Whitewater summary include: ......

Testimony by uniformed Secret Service Officer Henry P. O’Neill that he witnessed Williams removing files from Foster’s office on the night he died. (Williams denied the charge.) Williams’ admission that she removed documents from Foster’s office two days later and stored them in Mrs. Clinton’s bedroom closet. Allegations by White House aide Thomas Castleton that Williams’ told him Mrs. Clinton wanted to review the Foster office documents. .......

The troubling circumstances of the discovery of Foster’s so-called suicide note, found in his briefcase six days after his death by an aide to Nussbaum. Two days earlier, Nussbaum had searched the briefcase and declared it empty in the presence of Park Police and FBI investigators.

“Our oldest, blindest detective could have found that note, if it had been in there,” Park Police spokesman Charles Hines testified before the committee.

The misrepresentations Nussbaum made to senior Justice Department officials about his plans for the official search of Foster’s office. Justice Department lawyers and FBI investigators were denied access to evidence despite Nussbaum’s assurances to the contrary. The stunt prompted outrage from Deputy Attorney General Phillip Heymann, who later demanded of Nussbaum, “Bernie, are you hiding something?”

Questions about why Foster’s office remained unlocked and accessible to White House staffers for nearly twelve hours after his death, while Park Police and FBI investigators were barred for nearly two days. .....”

Accuracy in Media 9/21/00 Reed Irvine “….Why would a White House official be in fear of his life because he had found a missing computer?

Howard Sparks, an employee of the Management and Administration Office of the White House has signed an affidavit saying, “After Vincent Foster died, I received a call from Jim MacDonald (his boss at the time), who wanted me to meet with him outside and go for a ride with him. During that ride, Mr. MacDonald informed me that he was concerned that he would be killed because of what he had found.”............

James L. MacDonald, Jr. had found Vincent Foster’s computer, something that his bosses at the White House didn’t want those who were investigating Foster’s death to find. White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum had refused to let the investigators see what was on the computer when they were watching him examine and describe the files in Foster’s office……….

Hiding the computer was clearly obstruction of justice.

His immediate boss was Patsy Thomasson, the top aide of Clinton’s friend, Dan Lasater. She ran Lasater’s business while he served time for illegal distribution of cocaine.

Thomasson was in Foster’s office on the night of his death, searching his desk. Earlier in the evening she had a secret meeting in her office with a team of Secret Service experts in alarms and safes. She was experienced in controlling damage from scandals………..

Sheryl Hall, the former White House computer expert who exposed the misplacement of thousands of White House e-mails earlier this year, gave Sperry a significantly different account of what happened to Foster’s computer. She said that it remained in Foster’s office for about six months. She kept notes on the dates and times it was moved, and she provided copies of those notes to MacDonald. This suggests that it was never really lost………”

Hugh Turley 12/21/00 “...... Accuracy in Media will argue today in U.S. District Court in Washington some of the points regarding the Office of Independent Counsel’s failure to produce the documents concerning the death investigation of White House Counsel Vincent W. Foster. .........

On September 28, 1999, John Clarke filed a Freedom of Information suit in the US District Court for the District of Columbia on behalf of AIM - Accuracy in Media v. Office of Independent Counsel (”OIC”), Civil Action number 99-3448. That suit requests 710 documents, including documents generated during the 1993 investigation, most of the FBI interview reports generated during the Mr. Starr’s tenure (75% of the documents cited in the OIC’s report on the matter are secret), and the reports of its experts, including Dr. Henry Lee’s 500-page report. The OIC produced only about 320 documents. Among its excuses for failure to produce the 1993 documentation was that it had “no responsive documents” - even though it is required under the independent counsel law to retain “all documents if receives or generates.” ......”

NewsMax.com 12/20/00 Carl Limbacher “...... Elizabeth “Lisa” Moody, who was widowed in July 1993 when her then-husband Vince Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park, may be in for still more heartache in the months to come thanks to the $8 million book deal Hillary Clinton signed last week to pen a tell-all about her private life.

One of the topics Clinton is expected to deal with in order to justify her whopping advance is her relationship with the late deputy White House counsel, according to a published report in a supermarket weekly with close ties to the administration. .....

Reportedly the book will reveal, “the depth of Vince Foster’s obession for Hillary — and the emotional trauma she suffered over his suicide,” reports this week’s National Enquirer, which boasts of a legal staff headed up by the Clintons’ personal scandal lawyer David Kendall. .......

In a comment sure to reopen old wounds for Lisa and Foster’s three children, a Washington source told the tabloid Hillary is expected to “admit her feelings for longtime Clinton friend and White House aide Vince Foster, and say that he was in love with her.... She knows he was in love with her.” ......”

WorldNetDaily 1/4/01 Jon Dougherty “...... Three separate cases involving the 1993 death of deputy White House counsel Vincent Foster, Jr. are scheduled to be heard in federal courts in January, officials involved with the cases say, including one that may be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court. ........

According to John Clarke, an attorney representing Accuracy in Media and Patrick Knowlton, a grand jury witness for former Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr, the U.S. Supreme Court may decide by Jan. 8 on whether to accept a civil rights suit filed by Knowlton in 1996 against FBI agents and others “for witness intimidation.” ........

Meanwhile, attorney Allan J. Favish, Clarke said, expects to hear a ruling from U.S. District Court Judge William Keller in Los Angeles by Jan. 10 on Favish’s 1997 lawsuit. That action against the Office of Independent Counsel concerns its refusal to honor a Freedom of Information Act request for original crime-scene Polaroid photos of Foster taken after authorities discovered his body and began their investigation. ..........

A third case, filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., also involves a FOIA case against the OIC’s office - this one filed by Accuracy in Media. ......

The media watchdog group is attempting to gain access to Foster investigation records, Clarke said, noting that this suit was filed in December 1999. ........

The AIM suit also alleges “compelling evidence” of illegality in the OIC’s probe. Last April, the watchdog group filed 630 pages of exhibits and focuses on questions raised largely by Hugh Turley, who Clarke characterized as “the leading expert on the federal investigative record in the case.” ........”


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Copy and paste this to all your facebook friends and twitter accounts.

Remind every one that this is just ONE of the scandals involving the Clintons.

1 posted on 08/23/2016 2:19:22 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: The Mayor

Rus, have Tom Baurle read this- he is mentioned more than once. I am friends with him on Facebook, but He has thousands and would probably not know me.


2 posted on 08/23/2016 2:20:54 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Mr. K

WOW...thanks for bringing Alamo Girl’s good work back to life!!!!


3 posted on 08/23/2016 2:23:36 PM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Mr. K

NewsMax.com 12/20/00 Carl Limbacher “...... Elizabeth “Lisa” Moody, who was widowed in July 1993 when her then-husband Vince Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park, may be in for still more heartache in the months to come

>> thanks to the $8 million book deal Hillary Clinton signed last week to pen a tell-all about her private life.

“when we left the WH we were nearly broke”

Call for Sandy Burglar !!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 08/23/2016 2:25:31 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Mr. K

bumpety bump


5 posted on 08/23/2016 2:25:40 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Mr. K

4 later


6 posted on 08/23/2016 2:26:00 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: harpu

Drudge has a story from the Daily Mail saying FBI files in the National Archives are missing:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753013/Missing-FBI-files-linking-Hillary-Clinton-suicide-White-House-counsel-Vince-Foster-vanished-National-Archives.html


7 posted on 08/23/2016 2:28:22 PM PDT by JohnnyP (A minuscule percent of donations are distributed as aid.)
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To: Mr. K

Ah, memories of the days of Whitewater and the old Prodigy Whitewater Board. Those were the days my friend but here we are over 33 years later and Vince Foster’s body stil lies a-mouldering in the grave and Hillary Clinton is a running for POTUS. The more things change the more they stay the same.


8 posted on 08/23/2016 2:33:26 PM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: showme_the_Glory

It’s been a long time. I remember Alamo Girl well. Where is she now?


9 posted on 08/23/2016 2:35:30 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: HarleyLady27

PING


10 posted on 08/23/2016 2:35:54 PM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: Mr. K

Interesting. In high school, we had a senior year assignment to do a 10 page college-level research paper using only citations from the New York Times on some historical event of the 20th century. I bet you could do a similar type of assignment on events from the Clinton years using only Freerepublic’s archived posts :)


11 posted on 08/23/2016 2:40:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mr. K
Some threads and documents that should be added:

Miguel Rodriguez letter to Judge Starr

Trump's Vince Foster attack backed by new evidence

Miguel Rodriguez memorandum

Memo discussed

Vince Foster 'suicide' shocker: 2nd wound documented

12 posted on 08/23/2016 2:43:11 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Mr. K; AJFavish

Thanx for dusting this off, mr k

Noticed a mention of 9th/pix


13 posted on 08/23/2016 2:56:03 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Mr. K

Just as a point of reference, many of today’ voters were born since VWF murder.


14 posted on 08/23/2016 2:59:56 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Mr. K; justiceseeker93; Liz; Nachum; HarleyLady27; Lumper20; ZULU; Albion Wilde; Jane Long; ...

PING and FYI.

If you know anyone in the Trump campaign, they may find this very interesting, ya think?


15 posted on 08/23/2016 3:00:49 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: thinden; HarleyLady27; All

Thanks should go to HarleyLady27 who I should have credited in my original post

She compiled this as a response in another thread- I thought it deserved its own thread, and I just added some formatting and made it suitable for linking from FacaBook, Twitter, etc.

Kids voting now were not even born when this happened, and I remember it like it was yesterday.


16 posted on 08/23/2016 3:01:26 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Alamo-Girl

What is old is new again!

You rock


17 posted on 08/23/2016 3:05:40 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Mr. K
The problem with posts like this is that you are only going to reach people with a day and a half on their hand to read all of it.

Might I humbly suggest my Vincent Foster Op-ed Contest (Redux) which is a FR thread from 2005.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 08/23/2016 3:12:04 PM PDT by ml/nj (quotequote)
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To: Mr. K

I will email it to him


19 posted on 08/23/2016 3:20:19 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: silverleaf

Bump, bump!


20 posted on 08/23/2016 3:30:28 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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