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Hydrogen cost could equal 50-cent gasoline, with renewable energy: study
Green Car Reports ^
| August 19, 2016
| Stephen Edelstein
Posted on 08/21/2016 11:27:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What could possible go wrong?
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:29:46 AM PDT
by
Gamecock
(There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks to anticipated emissions standards for power plants and other factors, Which is English means, "Hydrogen will only be economical if we get the government to outlaw or tax alternatives."
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Early Hydrogen based travel
To: 2ndDivisionVet
My teenage grandson commented “Just because it’s possible technologically at some point doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea”.
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:33:08 AM PDT
by
Grams A
(The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
To: Gamecock
Are you suggesting helium as an alternative to a hydrogen future? BTW, the NY Times was touting hydrogen produced by electrolysis fueled by nuclear power, when it looked like we were running out of petroleum, fifty years ago.
To: Donglalinger
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:35:21 AM PDT
by
Vision Thing
(You know the depths of my heart, and You love me the same...)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lies.
Park your Hydrogen car for a month at the airport. You are running an air conditioner freezer 24/7 for a month.
Betcha that costs more than 50 cents a gallon, more than gasoline and diesel too.
Lol. Just a hunch.
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:35:24 AM PDT
by
TheNext
(Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
To: TheNext
We don’t know what the future will look like. I am an all of the above person when it comes to energy and may the best technology win (and it will).
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:36:23 AM PDT
by
volunbeer
(Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
To: Grams A
Precocious wisdom, lacking in many adults I know. But these adults are in the Tech industry, and their attitude keeps them running furiously in the hamster ball.
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:37:32 AM PDT
by
rightwingcrazy
("We will not tolerate those who are intolerant to the intolerant.")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ridiculous. The energy equivalent hydrogen to 20 gallons of gas would have to be towed behind the car in a tank.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The NREL plan assumes large-scale production of hydrogen through electrolysis, but with renewable energy used to provide the majority of electricity in place of fuels that produce high levels of carbon emissions. Wishful thinking. First of all, electrolysis doesn't happen easily. The components and support apparatus, including the catalysts, are obtained from using standard manufacturing processes using oil and coal. The electrolytes are similarly created, and you can't just use regular bathwater. Unless they plan to use green energy in the total manufacturing process, this will still produce high levels of carbon emissions, not that it is a bad thing. Of course "they" say it is, but they're running a con game. The 50 cents price is achieved by using fossil fuels and government subsidy (and lies).
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:42:29 AM PDT
by
roadcat
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does that include the $4.00 green subsidy?
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:45:17 AM PDT
by
BuffaloJack
(The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
When produced using renewable energy... There's the flaw right there. It takes energy to produce hydrogen gas by electrolysis. Now, if you could somehow train magical unicorns to do it, you're all set. Otherwise...
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:47:37 AM PDT
by
Leaning Right
(Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oct 10, 2012 GM closes NY fuel cell facility, consolidates hydrogen research in MI.
The town of Honeoye Falls, NY, got a jolt on October 5, when General Motors announced it would be closing down its fuel-cell research facility there.
The 220 GM employees were given the opportunity to move to Pontiac, MI, where GM will be consolidating its fuel cell program to capitalize on "synergies" with the automaker's Global Powertrain Engineering headquarters.
So much for "synergies."
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:47:44 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The average guy can handle gasoline without killing himself.
The same cannot be said of hydrogen.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gas...50 cents....
Fed Tax....$2.50.... State Tax...$1.00
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
No. I’m not suggesting anything.
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:49:10 AM PDT
by
Gamecock
(There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The prototype fuel cell vehicles I’ve read about create hydrogen from natural gas. Why not just use the natural gas for fuel rather than adding another level of cost and complexity? Makes no sense to me.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Water vapor is much, much more of a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. The left will vilify hydrogen if it looks viable.
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posted on
08/21/2016 11:53:39 AM PDT
by
MtnClimber
(For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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