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CA: Dr. Dre, Billionaire, Citizens Arrest for Brandishng a Gun, with no Evidence of Gun? by Police
Gun Watch ^ | 27 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/03/2016 5:25:18 AM PDT by marktwain


Dr. Dre is an extremely successful business man and music mogul.  He has built  an empire on music, video, movies, and a sale to Apple.  He may have a net worth of over a billion dollars. He is the black man in handcuffs in the white t-shirt.  Seem bizarre?  So is the story.  A person who is unnamed claims that Dr. Dre displayed a gun while asking him to leave. Dr. Dre has a different version of events. From cnsnews.com:

Dre, whose real name is Andre Young, told sheriff's deputies he didn't have a gun and that the man was blocking his driveway. He says the man moved his car but parked nearby. He says the man drove off after Dre recorded video of him.

Dre was briefly handcuffed while deputies investigated. No weapon was found at the scene, but deputies say the man initiated a citizen's arrest for misdemeanor brandishing a firearm.
More information was available at atlantablackstar.com.  Everyone is hyped about threats to black men and to police officers.  The last month has been a media frenzy following to police shooting of two black men and the assassinations of eight police officers.  This situation was handled with a minimum of muss or fuss. From atlantablackstar.com:
 Officers say the music producer was cooperative and consented to the search. He denied all allegations of the gun, informing police the man was parked directly in front of his driveway and blocking him in. The rapper asked him to leave – and he did – but immediately came back and parked in almost the exact same spot at the median in front of the home. Dre pulled out a cellphone to record what was going on and then the man drove off.

Pigeons and Planes reported that even though no weapon was found, the driver filed a police report. The case will go to the District Attorney, who will then decide if there is a legitimate case against the hip-hop artist.

Dre said the driver had previously engaged in a road-rage-type incident on the highway and followed him home, according to an LA Times source close to the investigation.
There is a video at atlantablackstar.com that shows some of the handcuffing.

 Link to video

At first glance, it appears as though the police overreacted.  A simple allegation by someone about a gun, and the police handcuff and search you at your home?

It fits into the idea that  "California has gone crazy on guns so I expect the police there to ignore the Constitution, no matter a person's color".

But I think something a bit more clever may be going on.  Dr. Dre is a very successful business man, known in the community.  Maybe he has a problem with a stalker/fan.  

But the police cannot just give him the name of someone who accused him, if there is no case.  And the police have no case.  They know that. Instead they talk to Dr. Dre about it.  If he consents to a limited search outside of his home, (it appears it was just outside he property line) the police can truthfully report that they searched and did not find any firearm.  That means absent other witnesses or video, the "brandishing case" is kaput.  It is a "he said" "she said" and the police report comes down on Dr. Dre's side.

Now for the clever bit.  The person who complained has filed a "citizens arrest" report.  This makes that person an official accuser. 

The whole thing will be thrown out. But with an official complaint, doesn't Dr. Dre have the right to know the name of his accuser?  Maybe Dr. Dre will be able to obtain a restraining order.

There is another cynical, off the wall, possibility.  Dr. Dre is in the entertainment industry.  That industry lives off of media attention.  Dr. Dre's situation just created millions of dollars worth of media attention.

©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Music/Entertainment; Politics; Society
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To: fella

“He may not have been hauled in, booked ans charged but his liberty surely was halted.”

Yes his liberty was taken from him for those moments, and for what? Because someone said gun? This is getting rediculous. We are either a nation of free men our we are not. His freedom is just as valuable as ours.

why oh why do police have the authority to detain someone, in handcuffs no less, just on the word of “some guy”?


21 posted on 08/03/2016 6:11:47 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Notthemomma
I thought he was simply leaning into the wall on the other side of that post with the black rectangle sticking out (? light fixture ?). Look at the others in the picture closer to the viewer and see the pattern—they stick out from the wall enough for a head to lean in past the top of the post.

You're right! My bad...

22 posted on 08/03/2016 6:12:48 AM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: marktwain

It would be nice if the propagandist writing this article took a moment to research the law on this. Cops in California are required by law to accept citizen’s arrests. To refuse to do so would place the cop in violation of the law. At one time, cops were required to book on a citizen’s arrest but now they have the option of taking the most appropriate enforcement action based on the information provided. In this case it sounds like they released him pursuant to 849B of the California Penal Code which says there isn’t enough evidence to proceed with the arrest. The cops are only the custodians, the person making the arrest is responsible.


23 posted on 08/03/2016 6:16:45 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: sargon

His head is behind the wall.


24 posted on 08/03/2016 6:17:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Yogafist

Thank you for the clarification.


25 posted on 08/03/2016 6:19:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: fella

There’s a legal difference between being detained and being arrested. If a cop pulls you over for speeding, he is detaining you. If he thinks you may be a threat, he may cuff you or put you in the squad car. His first concern (in theory) is to control the environment.


26 posted on 08/03/2016 6:35:04 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: marktwain

FYI

I happen to know Andre Young and have for many many years, HE NEVER GOES ANYWHERE without ARMED SECURITY. I didn’t look at the video but you can be guaranteed he had his Armed Security with him. At the very least they were in the House, just Like they Always are at all of his homes.


27 posted on 08/03/2016 6:40:36 AM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: marktwain

Misdemeanor brandishing of a firearm, in California?

This all sounds like baloney. I’m sure his thoroughly competent lawyers will settle this if they haven’t already.


28 posted on 08/03/2016 7:35:42 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Coffee... Black... No Sugar

911 is a joke!

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29 posted on 08/03/2016 7:54:03 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: dljordan
If you’re in handcuffs you are arrested, as in not free to go about your business.

I believe they call that "detained". He's cuffing you for his safety until things are sorted out.

30 posted on 08/03/2016 8:34:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: JimRed

Thus the courts have ruled. Unfortunately, it has become policy, instead of a judiciously applied judgement call.

Handcuffing a well known billionaire “for officer safety” is quite a bit different than handcuffing a carload of speeding ruffians with gang tattoos “for officer safety”.

One size is applied to all, in the sacred name of political correctness.


31 posted on 08/03/2016 8:49:53 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: dljordan

I believe “detained” and “arrested” are two different things.


32 posted on 08/03/2016 9:04:51 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: dljordan

https://www.google.com/search?q=arrested+vs+detained&oq=arrested+vs+detained


33 posted on 08/03/2016 9:04:51 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Donglalinger; PJammers

I dream of a day when the police respond to calls of “a man with a gun” the same way they would respond to “a man with an umbrella”.

Except, of course, that keeping and bearing umbrellas is NOT specifically protected under the Constitution....


34 posted on 08/03/2016 10:20:58 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: ExGeeEye

What amuses me about this article is Dean Weingarten, a person with redeeming value, making effort to write about Dr. Dre, a person with zero redeeming value.


35 posted on 08/03/2016 10:43:44 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: T-Bone Texan

Whatever else Andre may be - or not — he is a United States Citizen with Constitutional rights.


36 posted on 08/03/2016 10:48:00 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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