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MO: Mobile Gun Checking on Schedule for 15 July Trial Run in St. Louis
Gun Watch ^ | 1 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/05/2016 6:20:01 AM PDT by marktwain


An attendee at Busch Stadium in St Louis was shot and mugged in November of 2015.  Justin Hulsey was inspired. He designed a business to make events safer and more convenient for the public. Because the Stadium is a gun free zone, he developed a way to minimize the time that people will be left unarmed. He created a way for them to safely store their self defense tools during the event they are attending. From fox2now.com:

Hulsey calls it Mobile Safe Storage.

He is outfitting a 22 foot-long step van with armor and security cameras and has hired security guards to surround it when it is parked in public.

Hulsey`s plan is to begin by parking it at Paddy O`s on game days, offering visitors a chance to lock up their guns, or any other valuables they either can't or don`t want to bring into the stadium or leave in their car.

He believes being able to carry a gun to the stadium will give visitors a better sense of security, while also cutting down on the number of guns getting into the hands of criminals.

'If we can just stop one firearm from being stolen out of a car and used by a criminal, we succeeded,' Hulsey said. 'This isn`t about making millions, it`s about making a difference and we are passionate about it,' he said.

It is an idea supported by former St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch.
It is an business that many in the city applaud. Mobile Safe Storage fulfills a need.  But the Mayor's office may be using the zoning laws as a political power tool.  The desire seems to be to  prevent the business from operating.  From fox2now.com:
Hulsey plans a soft launch on July 15 as the Cardinals start a ten-day home stand. But a spokesperson for the Mayor`s office says the company has no business license and that running a business from Paddy O`s parking lot is not allowed under the bar`s current occupancy permit, and would be, 'illegal.'

Hulsey however says he has been speaking with the city and believes the way he has set things up with the bar; he has done everything he needs to do to begin doing business legally.
Mobile Safe Storage will charge $10 cash for storage during an event; $15 if a credit card is used. 

Mobile Safe Storage is a for profit version of the Knife Check tent set up by Knife Rights at the annual NRA meeting in Louiville this year. Hulsey's version is a bit more robust and secure, because it involves firearms.  Justin Hulsey had the idea first, but bureaucratic obstacles have been adding delays to the implementation.  The potential for this business is considerable.  There are stadiums all over the country that would benefit from this service, as well as numerous other events. 

In Arizona, most public facilites are required to provide secure check in facilities for private firearms, if they ban possession on the premises.  Private venues may ban firearms, and are not required to check them.

Concealed carry permits approach 10 percent of the adult population in some states. All states have some form of concealed carry.  No permits are required in 10 states.  Missouri is likely to become the 11th permitless or "Constitutional" carry state in September.  If that happens, it can only help the Mobile Safe Storage startup.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncheck; missouri; mo; mobile
If there is a need, capitalists can find a way to fulfill it, and government can find a way to use regulation to stop the exchange of money for service.
1 posted on 07/05/2016 6:20:01 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Nice idea, but ...
How much fuss will there be to get the guns back?
Could the gov't insert itself in that process and demand to see ID's, CCW's and/or check against outstanding warrants and spend 20 minutes per customer doing so?
Or worse, what stops the gov't from swooping in and confiscate the truck with all the checked in weapons?

2 posted on 07/05/2016 6:50:41 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: BitWielder1

Just another ‘line’ I wouldn’t stand in. lol


3 posted on 07/05/2016 6:53:09 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

I applaud any entrepreneur but I don’t think this will be a successful idea. The good news is the initial investment looks pretty small.


4 posted on 07/05/2016 6:56:11 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: marktwain

The plus side, greater gun availability.

The potential downside is from government intentionally acting unconstitutionally, using some pretense to violate the heck out of the gun owner’s civil rights.

What comes to mind is what happened in several large cities in the US when international financial meetings were held there. The police were told unofficially to break the law in a multitude of ways, to suppress the protests and even journalistic coverage of protests.

Their cynical calculation was that the resulting litigation would take months, yet result in only modest fines, that would in turn be paid by taxpayers. Zero punishment for those responsible. But doing so would allow the police to:

1) Detain protesters for days without charge, then letting them go after the conference was over.

2) Allow police to conceal their faces, names and badge numbers while acting unlawfully, to prevent individual identification and responsibility.

3) Allow police to use excessive force against protesters and even journalists and bystanders, sometimes called a “police riot”.

4) Seizing and destroying cameras and video evidence as well as other electronics, like cellphones. Also localized jamming of broadcast signals and WiFi.

5) Importing LEOs from outside the region to dress in unconventional clothing like non-uniform fatigues, to act as what amounted to paramilitaries, to conduct detentions more akin to kidnappings.

The bottom line is that these cities got away with it, even when the bad publicity forced leaders to issue empty apologies. In a few places they were forced to make cosmetic changes to rules, but even those were quietly discarded after a year or two.

And these abuses are not far removed from the abuses inflicted on some gun dealers in past, which shows the great disdain the authorities have for the Second Amendment.


5 posted on 07/05/2016 6:56:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain

Will there be armed guards or police patrolling between the venues and the mobile checking station, or will it be a gun-free zone for criminal activity?


6 posted on 07/05/2016 6:58:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: marktwain

I was thinking of something similar, but not at sporting events.

At county court houses.

But like all things, it takes $$$.


7 posted on 07/05/2016 7:00:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: marktwain

Neat, but doesn’t really solve the problem.


8 posted on 07/05/2016 7:19:59 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: marktwain

Be careful! All those firearms in ONE PLACE can be confiscated real easy. It has happened before.

In the sixth century BCE, a tyrant named Pisistratus took over Athens. Aristotle explained how the tyrant obtained absolute power by disarming the people of every city he controlled:

After his victory in the battle at Pallene he captured Athens, and when he had disarmed the people he at last had his tyranny securely established, and was able to take Naxos (a Greek island) and set up Lygdamis as ruler there.

He effected the disarmament of the people in the following manner. He ordered a parade in full armour in the Theseum (a temple), and began to make a speech to the people. He spoke for a short time, until the people called out that they could not hear him, whereupon he bade them come up to the entrance of the Acropolis, in order that his voice might be better heard.

Then, while he continued to speak to them at great length, men whom he had appointed for the purpose collected the arms and locked them up in the chambers of the Theseum hard by, and came and made a signal to him that it was done.

Pisistratus accordingly, when he had finished the rest of what he had to say, told the people also what had happened to their arms; adding that they were not to be surprised or alarmed, but go home and attend to their private affairs, while he would himself for the future manage all the business of the state. (Aristotle, The Athenian Constitution, ch. 15, translated by Sir Frederic G. Kenyon)

http://www.davekopel.org/2A/Foreign/arms-and-the-greeks.htm

https://books.google.com/books?id=JgWDAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA113&lpg=PA113&dq=greek+tyrant+seizes+weapons&source=bl&ots=WSQvRjNm7d&sig=ANqhK2kzBFsdfG76_CPsLJT3J1Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwil7-fSxtzNAhWKOCYKHV-7AZ0Q6AEIRTAE#v=onepage&q=greek%20tyrant%20seizes%20weapons&f=false


9 posted on 07/05/2016 7:48:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain
 
 
Interesting concept, but I wouldn't expect it to last - the government commissars probably won't stand for people daring to exercise their rights and will move to pass some sort of ordinance or regulation that will put the quash on it.
 
 

10 posted on 07/05/2016 12:51:22 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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