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To: snoringbear
" Over the years I have had friends with engineering, finance, accounting, etc, degrees who have had a desire to teach after retiring from the private sector. And, they have run up to this road block. Reguiring these Education Hours is just a means by which Teachers Unions use to protect their turf. Btw, there is no such requirement to teach at the college level."

Snoringbear, how many of your friends in those vaulted careers has to give presentations and had to have team building and leadership skills in order to be successful at their craft? Hmmm, seems to me that's what you need to be up in front of a classroom to get the bells and whistles to go off in those skulls full of mush. In a former career I was at the top of my game and at a career fair they had the Local HS looking for teachers and I asked about me teaching said skill, nope, 4 yr teaching degree needed, naturally I walked away.

Don't get me started on the plethora of non-line courses that are available from MIT, Stanford etc that your HS kid could can take as an alternative, especially if they are in a non traditional sport and want time away from the rigid school times and are advanced academically. 1st they won't take the courses, they are not "certified" and they can't vouch for them for their vaulted Diploma and it is all about the head count, funding and the Unions.

Boy could I tell you some stories, off line if you want....

16 posted on 06/29/2016 6:15:42 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: taildragger

“” Over the years I have had friends with engineering, finance, accounting, etc, degrees who have had a desire to teach after retiring from the private sector. And, they have run up to this road block. Reguiring these Education Hours is just a means by which Teachers Unions use to protect their turf. Btw, there is no such requirement to teach at the college level.”
Snoringbear, how many of your friends in those vaulted careers has to give presentations and had to have team building and leadership skills in order to be successful at their craft? Hmmm, seems to me that’s what you need to be up in front of a classroom to get the bells and whistles to go off in those skulls full of mush. In a former career I was at the top of my game and at a career fair they had the Local HS looking for teachers and I asked about me teaching said skill, nope, 4 yr teaching degree needed, naturally I walked away.”

Taildragger, I was employed by a major electronics firm for 35 years. My degree is in Economics. My career was spent primarily as a manufacturing and supply chain manager. To answer your question about these people’s ability to give presentations, stand up in front of a group and give presentations, have interpersonal skills and so in; actually, in the private sector, after one has been employed after a relatively short period of time they are expected to make presentations, interface with customers, be involved as a member in cross functional teams, etc. so, it’s rare for any salaried person to retire after 20 ~ 40 years and not be able to teach at the high school level. It’s just a shame to exclude this large pool of folks with math and science skills from contributing, especially when so many high schools are having to staff these classes with people who are so lacking in math and science knowledge. Anyway, my two bits....


26 posted on 06/29/2016 6:50:45 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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