Posted on 06/08/2016 4:40:43 AM PDT by marktwain
+1.
The ATF is a rogue agency to start with. They commit illegal acts all the time.
What if your organization burned down a church KNOWN to be crowded with about 100 people and over 20 children on live television, with almost no legal or professional consequences?
You would feel you were working for an entity ABOVE THE LAW.
ATF started the problem, but it was the FBI that burned down the Branch Davidian buildings, while shooting anyone trying to escape, and blocking exits before hand.
The NRA thought they had a handle on things for the Senate investigatory hearings, but they, and everyone else, where blindsided when everything that had been scheduled in advance was overturned at the last minute, and the hearings turned into a sideshow on David Koresh instead of investigating the FBI.
It was clear, at that moment, that the Senate feared the FBI and the Media enough to cover up mass murder. The Clintons were in the White House, and you can bet a lot of pressure was brought to bear.
where blindsided should be were blindsided
Yes, exactly correct.
Thank you.
That would be accountants collecting excise taxes on booze and butts. The rest, I agree: completely disband and abolish.
Exactly, if there are taxes to collect let another agency do that...like the IRS or some such. The ATF should not exist in any form, it should be entirely disbanded.
There is party store up by me that sells firearms. I’ve told the owner he should change the name to “alcohol, tobacco &firearms”
CC
True, but it seems the BATFE is really full of those types. I think that to have an application accepted for employment, one must have a prior record of such behavior.
Most tellingly is the comment that the serving US Marshal had during the Bush (#41) administration when it was suggested that they be folded into the Marshal service.
This was how that Marshal answered the question: "Q: What do you get when you mix dirty water into clean water? A: DIRTY WATER! We don't want them.
Other federal agencies have known about our modern versions of the Gestapo for a long time. So has the Congress. One of the more conservative of congress-critters once referred to them as the JACK BOOTED THUGS of the U.S. Government.
Exactly. Why should there even be a Federal police force if the 2nd Amendment was a "Right", not a privilege?
Where is the Bureau of Free Speech, Fee Assembly and Religion?
NO, the 2nd Amendment is a privilege and you need gov approval to exercise it, or the BATFags will kick in your door and take you away.
Can anyone point out to me anywhere in the US Constitution where the fed gov, congress or any other federal body is given the legal, legitimate authority to do anything regarding alcohol? Including taxing it, unless it’s a tariff duty on imports being brought into the country?
Is there any authorization in the Constitution for the fed gov to ANY authority over arms, explosives or even tobacco? Please, I’d really like to see such legal authority provided to the executive, legislative or judicial branches. I haven’t found it.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Thanks. Had forgotten about that taxing thing in my livid distaste for all things federal gargantuan. Just remembered that it took a Constitutional amendment for the authority to “regulate” alcohol by making it “illegal”. Still don’t think they should have the power to create bureaucracies like the ATF to “regulate” those things that they only have authority to just “tax”. ;^)
BATFE as it exists today is massive overreach and unconstitutional. The underlying tax authority is what the Founding Fathers intended as the means by which Fedgov would raise funds to, for example, maintain an army and a navy.
Just a little note about Glenallen. Think deep south, 1930s, beyond poor, and a little scary. This guy is playing with matches. Even some of the women there would make mincemeat of an average Joe.
Justice comes in many forms.
Hmmm, makes me wonder what BATF needs these under cover op’s for in Alaska? I would also wager there are more of them than just this rouge. Wonder what they are up to that they need this “caliber” of individual? Bet it stinks to high Heaven, whatever it is.
FRegards,
SS1
"Using police lights to pull someone over without cause is depriving them of their constitutional rights under the Fourth Amendment."
I have no love for the ATF, but this author is a nut. I'm surprised he wasn't listed as Tyler Durden. The driver of the ATF vehicle was a jerk, but this article is black lives matter and gold fringed flag stuff.
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