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AL: Free Carry Permits for Retired Military Veterans
Gun Watch ^ | 17 May, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 05/27/2016 5:30:31 AM PDT by marktwain


In Alabama, Governor Robert Bentley signed HB98, which provides for retired veterans who qualify, to obtain free pistol permits.  The bill was popular with the legislature, passing nearly unanimously. HB98 passed the House 93 to 4 with 3 abstentions. It passed the Senate 30 to 2 with no abstentions on 3 May, 2016, and was signed into law by Governor Bently on 13 May, 2016.

The bill applies to retired military veterans who are non-disability retirees from the Army, Navy, Coast Guard or Marines, or any reserve component thereof. From the HB98(pdf):

24  (b) Any retired military veteran who meets the
25  conditions for issuance of a pistol permit pursuant to Section      1    13A-11-75, Code of Alabama 1975, shall be eligible to obtain
2   the pistol permit without paying a fee for the permit. Upon
3   approval of the pistol permit application, the pistol permit
4   shall be issued by the sheriff of the county in which the
5   veteran resides upon presentation by the retired military
6   veteran of the United States government issued Veteran
7   Identification Card or a DD-214 Proof of Military Service form
8   and sufficient proof that the person is a military retiree.
9   The retired military veteran shall apply for renewal as
10 required by law, but shall be eligible to obtain renewed
11 pistol permits without paying a fee as long as he or she meets
12 the conditions for renewal of the permit.
A number of states make special provisions for verterans, allowing their military service to be sufficient proof of training to obtain a carry permit.  Alabama does not issue permits to non-residents, so the free permits are only available to military retirees who maintain a residence in Alabama.


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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: al; banglist; carrypermit; veterans
Encouraging Veterans to carry is good policy. This is a good first step.
1 posted on 05/27/2016 5:30:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Georgia does it as well. And also they give free drivers licenses to veterans with a notation on the DL that the’re veterans which allows them discounts at certain stores. Here in WA veterans have to pay extra for veteran’s plates and no free anything from the state which is typical since it’s even more liberal than OR.


2 posted on 05/27/2016 5:38:06 AM PDT by SkyDancer
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To: marktwain

>Encouraging Veterans to carry is good policy. This is a good first step.

Some animals are more equal than others....Restoration of Constitutional Rights for ALL.


3 posted on 05/27/2016 5:47:02 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

Exactly! Its a bad idea that sends a poor message: if youre a givt agent or have been then youre nore trustworthy. Its just not the case.


4 posted on 05/27/2016 5:48:59 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: marktwain

That would have saved me $200.

$100 for the mandatory class, which I didn’t need, and the $100 fee for the permit from the county sheriff.


5 posted on 05/27/2016 6:12:52 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: marktwain

Retired Vets have always had their own guns here up`n the mountains.

Retired Veterans Led the First Charge at the Battle Plattsburgh 1814

Over 700 retired Revolutionary War Veterans drilled in Streetroad, Ticonderoga NY, had to retreat back down the Vineyard Rd. in the face of a pack of wolves, waited til the wolves left, then marched 60 miles to to Plattsburgh.
“These later fought as 30 volunteers and 700 Essex and Clinton [counties] militia at the Battle of Plattsburgh where they led the first charge at the British.”

“1814 September 4: 700 Militia [with their own weapons] rallied from Essex and Clinton [rallied] counties [NY] had assembled at Plattsburgh and were immediately placed on the front line first picket. They attacked the British first across the river [in their rear], not waiting for the U.S. Army regulars to decide what to do.

Crockett, p.268 , Crockett, Wm. H., “A History of Lake Champlain”. Hubart J. Shanley & Co., 1909, Crown Collection, New York State Library *

“The Pictorial Field-book of the War of 1812: Or, Illustrations, by Pen and ...”
By Benson John Lossing 1868
pp.862,874

Watson, Winslow Cossoul, “The Military and Civil History of the County of Essex, New York”, Munsell, Albany, NY 1869, page 3


6 posted on 05/27/2016 6:36:38 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: marktwain

This is less than it seems. To me, it reads that the law only applies to military retirees, and on a military pension, and not to all veterans who happen to be retired.


7 posted on 05/27/2016 8:01:32 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: marktwain

You can bet the commie tyrant in New York won’t be doing anything like this.


8 posted on 05/27/2016 8:01:52 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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To: marktwain

While it seems that *some* veterans benefit from this, the costs to their rights seems to be far higher than the benefits.

First, it is discriminatory, in that there is no reason to require permits from the legal general public, added to which it requires *disabled* veterans to still buy a permit. It was not well thought out, in that it does not distinguish between all the different forms of disability.

Second, it opens the door to a Sheriff being able to not only easily revoke a license, not just on conviction or arrest, but on “suspicion” by the Sheriff, and they are under threat: “Should the retired veteran refuse to return the pistol permit within the 30-day limit and continue to carry the handgun, he or she shall be
guilty of carrying a weapon without a license or carrying a
concealed weapon, whichever might be the case.”

As far as the composition of the law, why doesn’t it refer back to the policy used for the general public if their license is revoked?

The more I read this law, the less I like it.


9 posted on 05/27/2016 8:02:02 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain

This is good. I don’t mind paying for my permit, but I am glad the veteran retirees get theirs for free. Even if my state goes permitless (and I think it will), I will still carry an Alabama permit for purposes of reciprocity.


10 posted on 05/27/2016 8:28:50 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: backwoods-engineer
This is good. I don’t mind paying for my permit, but I am glad the veteran retirees get theirs for free.

Any requirement whatsoever for licensing or permits is a violation of the second amendment. So it ain't "good".

11 posted on 05/27/2016 11:14:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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