Ha! Cruz is even more ineligible.
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Could you imagine a government “Of the People”?
I can.
Ping for tomorrow
Well that just wiped out our whole government except for Trump...
Isn’t that amazing!!!
What junk.
To elaborate: conflating lawyers licensed by a State with Knights subversive to a foreign power is sophistry. IOW, junk.
Oh yeah, we might also want to focus more on making sure violent felons can’t vote (something the demscum and GOPe are pushing for) as opposed to stripping people who pass a bar exam of their citizenship.
BtW, everyone hates lawyers - until they need one.
We are too busy trying to save a country from Hillary, et.al. for this BS.
How does someone know that you are not so stupid that you will fall for darn near anything? A good test might be whether you fall for the 13th Amendment scam or not.
The 13th Amendment scam derives from alleged “research” by David Dodge and Tom Dunn, a couple of wackos who chanced upon the “missing” 13th Amendment in a library in Maine, and concluded that not only had the Amendment been ratified, but that it also had been “hidden” for years by an obscure but elaborate and extensive conspiracy, and that the net effect of the Amendment was that no laws passed by Congress had any validity.
This was a scam from the outset. The idea was that scam artists could go around and pitch the “Missing 13th Amendment” and sell seminars and books and tapes and whatever on the subject. When this scam was first pitched in the early 1990s, it actually found favor with the Midwestern farmers who were battling with their local banks to keep control of the their family farms, and were more than willing to listen to tales of evil bankers and conspiring lawyers.
But a scam that smells so sweet is still a scam. And this scam never really caught on because even if you ass-u-me that the 13th Amendment was secretly passed, it is hard to then go to where this does anybody any practical good. The premise of Dodge and Dunn was along the lines that the 13th Amendment would have prohibited attorneys (which they ass-u-me is a “title”, although it is really a license) from holding seat in Congress, and thus they further ass-u-me that Congress is full of attorneys who would be thus un-seated. What these ace researchers weren’t able to figure out, however, is that Congress actually includes very few attorneys (in addition to, as noted above, that one is granted a license to be an attorney, not anointed by the Queen or President, just as a CPA or barber is granted a license).
Anyhoo, this 13th Amendment Scam has been thoroughly de-bunked time and time again by a number of qualified and accredited researchers, probably most thoroughly by Jol A. Silversmith in his work: “The Real Titles of Nobility Amendment FAQ”, appearing at http://www.thirdamendment.com/nobility.html and his “The ‘Missing Thirteenth Amendment’: Constitutional Nonsense and Titles of Nobility” at http://www.thirdamendment.com/missing.html
Notwithstanding that NO accredited legal scholar thinks the 13th Amendment argument is anything other than a scam, and though this scam has been discredited on the internet and elsewhere by real academics time and time again, the following fraudsters continue to perpetuate this scam.
It has no place here on FR
Virginia ratifiying the amendment in 1819 would not have given the 3/4 majority required since Louisiana entered the union in the intervening years.
However, it seems we were wrong ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titles_of_Nobility_Amendment
FWIW, ratification of this Amendment is still pending, and requires 26 more states today.
More interesting IMHO, is the also still pending Apportionment Amendment, one of the original twelve sent to the States ( ten finally made it as the "Bill Of Rights" ).
The horrifically titled Bill Of Rights actually started as 39, yes thirty-nine articles in the House from the great James Madison.
The Clinton’s came to mind first. But all those dirtbags are guilty of collusion. The country is a business and needs a businessman to run it, not a bunch of sneaky, slimy low life lawyers. Obama should reimburse the people for the salaries of the illegal czars he installed. And also for the staff of 55 his wife hired to fix her hair and dress her.
BFL
Absolutely fascinating. I will pass around. Too bad the original article misprints the date a few times but such is life.
I hope someone sends this to Trump’s people.
I couldn’t find anything other than this article repeated, verbatim, several times.
Makes me think this is an Internet scam.
An amendment to the Constitution was secretly removed?
Finding that very hard to believe.
This entire thread is rife with inconsistencies due to sloppy writing and lack of editing, specifically as to dates, past and present*. The sentence above is a prime example.
If the group(s) perpetrating the crime were as powerful and extensive as portrayed, why did they overlook (and not destroy) the records cited in the article (e.g. a book in the Library of Congress Law Library called 2 VA LAW. This reveals the overthrow of the constitutional government by secret agreements engineered by the lawyers. That is one of the reasons for the 13th Amendment.)?
Still, the successful manipulation of officially recognized amendments to the U.S. Constitution (approved by two thirds of the states at the time of adoption) to the point of extinction, is bit much to swallow.
That is not to say that the historic combination of bankers and lawyers is not capable of attempting the conspiracy that this article suggests. * Last year I spent several days reading on line photocopy records from England of the actual hand written official legislative records, both Central and remote; also the contemporary commentary of the parties involved which often varied in detail and viewpoint from the versions forwarded to the king.
So, yes, records through the middle of the 19th Century are somewhat chaotic and often contradictory.
interesting interpretation that it prohibited lawyers from serving in government considering the number of presidents that were lawyer during that timeframe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation
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Professor, are you aware of this? Do you think there is substance to this at all? Thanks!
Another conspiracy 101 theory, I see. This makes no logical sense whatsoever. The entire electorate would have had to have Alzheimer’s for this to happen.