Posted on 04/11/2016 7:49:30 PM PDT by pboyington
Here we go
The US Army now has its first female infantry recruit, a police officer in Louisiana.
According to Fox News:
Tammy Barnett said she figures her new job will be a lot like her old one. With one notable exception: Shell be the first female to do it. The 25-year-old Louisiana police officer is set to report to basic training as the Armys first female infantry recruit, The Army Times reported. Barnett will serve in one of the military occupational specialties opened to women on April 1. She made her initial visit to recruiters in November, took her oath on Thursday and will report to Fort Benning, Georgia, for basic training in June 2017.
I have served the front lines in my hometown, Barnett said in a statement, and now I am going to serve the front lines for my country.
First of all, thank you Officer Barnett for serving as a police officer. In this country, the police have been bombarded by leftist news agencies and activists who blame them for every possible conundrum in society. Take pride in knowing that you are one of the bravest of the brave.
Secondly, thank you for wanting to serve in the US Army. Unfortunately, by choosing the infantry, you are just a pawn, and most likely a future casualty of wacko policies implemented by leftists, which are being allowed to become law because our nations military leaders are gutless cowards.
I hope that I give them the courage, because Im a small female, she told KSLA. If I can do it, they can to.
It takes more than courage to survive as an infantryman in combat, excuse me, infantry person. Am I being gender neutral enough, Mr. Secretary of Defense?
She initially planned to enter the military police, but infantry is similar, she told The Army Times. And they are more on the front lines, like law enforcement here, and I said, thats what I want to do.
Officer Barnett is vastly mistaken. The infantry and the police have very few similarities.
First the few similarities:
Being a police officer can be a very dangerous job depending on the locale and the situation.
Being in the infantry, in combat, with the Army or the Marines is a very dangerous job, thats why grunts in the Army refer to the MOS as 11 Bullet, instead of 11 Bravo. You are a pop up target for Uncle Sam.
Both the police and the military enjoy the esprit de corps that stems from working together in challenging and fluid situations.
And, thats where the similarities end and where the differences begin, which are vast.
To begin with, a combat infantrymans pack weighs about 80 pounds and thats not counting IBA (interceptor body armor), a rifle, water, food and extra ammo that must be humped. Soldiers in the infantry must carry these heavy packs into combat for unknown distances that may be vast and on ground which can range from steep jungle trails to desert. Most women simply do not have the upper body strength and the physical stamina to conduct these missions, regardless of what Valerie Jarrett, Ash Carter and Ray Mabus believe.
I have never seen a police officer carrying a 100 pound pack anywhere, ever. I have never seen a police officer carrying a pack of any type, ever.
According to the NYPD, the average police gun fight lasts 15 seconds or less. As an infantry soldier you may be assaulting an objective or on an operation that may last hours, days or even weeks. Its physically and mentally exhausting.
Police officers work in shifts. No matter how violent a day might be for a police officer, the police will return to the station and then go home to a warm house, a shower and a bed.
For the infantry soldier in war there is no returning to a police station, a home, a shower and then a warm bed. Grunts often go out on patrols or operations for days or weeks at a time. Personal hygiene consists of brushing your teeth and shaving. There is no warm house. There is no bed. Your bed is the softest piece of ground you can find.
Women have vastly different hygienic needs then men do. How does the Army expect women to be out on combat patrols for weeks at a time without showering? How does the Army expect to deploy women to combat zones where they may not shower for a month or months at a time?
A police officer can always relieve himself or herself in privacy, in a bathroom, in a restaurant or at the station or wherever they can stop. Grunts dig a hole and often find themselves in situations where they must relieve themselves in close proximity to other grunts.
How is the Army planning for this situation in the field? Okay, on the count of three the men turn their heads to the right. But, sarge, we have to watch the trail in front of us. Dont worry about the enemy private.
Questions for Officer Barnett:
Have you wondered how you will fair in a hand to hand combat fight to the death with a 6 foot, 200 pound ISIS Jihadi pumped up on Red Bull and beheading videos?
Officer Barnett, how far do you think you can throw a grenade? I know its not politically correct to say, Throws like a girl, but the term does have some meaning that applies to success in sports and survival in combat.
How fast can you sprint across an area over-watched by a machine gun? How fast can you do a four second rush carrying your 100 pound pack?
Can you carry a 100 pound plus pack during continual combat operations for days or weeks?
How is your upper body strength Officer Barnett? Can you vault obstacles under fire?
Officer Barnett, like many women in America is a victim of societal and media brainwashing which now portrays men as complete weaklings who cant count to five and women as Xena Warrior Princesses who kick butt and take names on a daily basis.
The concept of women in the infantry is a pure fantasy and the role of the infantry is nothing like being a police officer. The whole You Go Girl, Girl Power Movement is an illusion, a Potemkin Village of warped, false ideas in a make believe, cloud cuckoo land.
Dont worry America, the military is on this. Dont worry America the militarys senior leaders have your back. Dont worry America the militarys senior leaders are concerned about the troops.
Sure they are
In the coming months and years, Officer Barnett and thousands of other American women will graduate from Infantry training, Ranger School, The Special Forces Q Course, Delta Force selection and Navy SEAL BUD/S and the standards will have remained the same as they are for men.
I also have some swampland in Florida to sell you.
This gigantic lie, this gargantuan delusion will propagate to the day it is obliterated in one fell swoop on a distant battlefield and female US Army infantry soldiers are massacred in droves.
Maybe the military and the nation will realize this was a really bad idea when the flag draped coffins start arriving and we all start speaking Chinese or Russian.
To quote that masterful, immortal sage, Detective Harry Callahan; Its a hell of a price to pay for being stylish.
I can't speak for Army Infantry Basic, but Marines who go to the School of Infantry are already assumed to have the physical ability. The SOI isn't designed to "weed out" recruits who are unable to meet the physical demands of the infantry -- it is more designed to teach more technical infantry skills. That's why 98 percent of male Marines assigned dot the school complete it successfully.
Ive seen cops carrying big sacks of donuts and coffee.
No, not 100 pounds of it.
Ive seen them carry a 100 pounds of extra weight, though. They wheeze and really don’t move extremely well.
And i have seen people stay cops far past the time they should have packe it in because the years on the job changed them into very cynical, jaded and somewhat elitist clicky people.
I have not met a woman I could not beat in a physical confrontation. None.
I have in fact defended several who could not defend themselves.
Also once played basketball against a female NCAA Div 1 scholarship athlete. I couldn’t make the male high school team.
It was not even close. (Do I have to actually say who won?!) And this was at a party - as in I had more than a few beers in me! (She had just arrived.)
Women in a combat MOS is RIDICULOUS.
Counter-example: A female friend of mine was in the Army on convoy duty in Iraq. They got hit. She responded with her shotgun to great effect. So women who are willing to get into the #### and fight have my highest regard. But even she thinks putting women into a ground combat MOS is utter PC BS.
“Tammy Barnett said she figures her new job will be a lot like her old one.”
Until she finds out that your average third world hell hole does not have Duncan’s Donuts and 7-11s on every corner.
They shouldn’t have been allowed to be cops, either. People forget there was a time not too long ago police forces were all male.
This woman has been misled by recruiters, the Army leadership, elected representatives, and the feminist activists. She is going to be shocked by her experience. She will probably be graduated in spite of multiple failures along the way. The politicians have so decreed. But, when she is dead or permanently injured, no one will care about her, and her family or herself will have to deal with the consequences by themselves.
You’re right; they are physically unable to deal with many male perps, and in this day and age (when guns are a no-no) they are useless.
The choking of Eric Garner in Staten Island, for which six cops are being charged, was overseen by a female sergeant who let the men do the hard work. The story never got the traction Ferguson did because half of the cops (including that sergeant) are black.
Another significant difference — As a cop, they can’t throw you in jail for quitting.
The US military, indentured servitude, four years at a time.
I can already see the lawsuits. Glad I'm retiring in a few months.
On another note: the Army Medical Evaluation Boards are going to start getting a lot of new cases due to this madness.
This will be a serious taxpayer issue when they all get lifetime disability. Their injury rates in the line of duty are much higher.
Ha, yep. I was 11B, and I’m glad I am out.
Regards,
You’re severely confused. You got the Freddy Gray case(still ongoing) switched up with the Eric Garner case(long over with; no billed, only one officer). Although the on scene supervisor in the latter was a black female.
I see comments about it being different; of course it is.
For Working Patrol Cops in Big Cities (that distinction is important), the stress and fear may be low-level; but it is constant and it lasts 20 Years. Even off-duty you have and know your Responsibilities, and know that you will be drawn, quartered and castigated for any mistake.
Until you are allowed to retire with a pittance of a pension. (Not the big pensions that police bosses get who don’t have to go on the street and confront the beast. Or the ‘special’ cops who go to the high-speed units based on who they’ve blown recently.)
Personally, I would trade a few months of my youth spent under fire and in danger, with buddies who I know would support me, for:
Twenty years of being stabbed in the back by hack bosses, politicians, the press and the people we are trying to help.
My wife spent 8 years in the army. She could do 60 of the best pushups anyone had ever seen, situps till the people holding her ankles got tired and did her two miles in 12:45. Nice petite little thing who could not have weighed more than 120 lbs.
And she was never able to pick up the rucksack with the radio and batteries and antenna and regular gear and etc.
A camo system does not give a flip about the sex of the person trying to pick it up, only if it can be picked up. A mortar system doesn’t care who sets it up, only if the person can lift the plate and move with it.
The vast majority of women, and a whole lot of men, can’t do it. And they shouldn’t be allowed in.
My mistake; thanks for clarifying. I remember seeing the black women with the stripes in the background in Staten Island.
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