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To: kabar

“Now I know you are full of it. My daughter was born in Singapore while I was posted as a US diplomat in Jakarta. Both my wife and I are US citizens. I personally filed a Consular Report of Birth and received the documentation to bring my daughter back to Jakarta. After that, my daughter was added to my wife’s diplomatic passport for travel back to the US. Eventually, my daughter was issued a US passport. She was never naturalized. She never received a certificate of naturalization. She is a US citizen by birth (jus sanguinis), not thru naturalization.”

A child born abroad with one or with two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship only by naturalization at birth or naturalization after birth, unless the child is protected by diplomatic immunity, in which case the child is a natural born citizen of the United States. Whether the child is naturalized at birth, naturalized after birth, or natural born citizen of the U.S.; an entry document/s are required to cross the U.S. border into the United States such as the Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA), inclusion on a parent’s U.S. passport, and/or other accepted documents. If your daughter was born under the protection of diplomatic immunity, she was a natural born citizen and was not naturalized at birth. If your daughter was not born under the protection of diplomatic immunity, then she automatically acquired U.S. citizenship by naturalization at birth and no further documentation was required to evidence the naturalization than the Consular Report of a Birth Abroad (CRBA) and subsequent inclusion on a parent’s U.S. passport. A child born abroad with two U.S. citizen parents is not required to go through an immigration and naturalization procedure in order to become naturalized at birth.

“Whether she is a NBC is another matter. I believe she is but the courts have never litigated the issue.”

It all depends on whether or not your daughter was born under the protection of diplomatic immunity. If your wife had a U.S. diplomatic passport at the time of your daughter’s birth, it appears your daughter was born under diplomatic immunity and would therefore definitely be a natural born citizen of the U.S. and therefore eligible to lawfully serve as POTUS.

Ted Cruz, however, was supposedly qualified to acquire U.S. citizenship only by naturalization at birth, because we know his mother was definitely not a U.S. diplomat and his father was a foreign citizen when the birth took place in the foreign jurisdiction of Canada. According to the information I recently discovered, it may well be that Ted Cruz did not lawfully acquire any U.S. citizenship due to his father’s failure to naturalize in the time frame required by Section 320 of Public Law 414, U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952.


108 posted on 02/13/2016 2:31:23 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
A child born abroad with one or with two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship only by naturalization at birth or naturalization after birth, unless the child is protected by diplomatic immunity, in which case the child is a natural born citizen of the United States

You are wrong. There is no such thing as naturalization at birth. You are either a citizen at birth or naturalized period.

It all depends on whether or not your daughter was born under the protection of diplomatic immunity. If your wife had a U.S. diplomatic passport at the time of your daughter’s birth, it appears your daughter was born under diplomatic immunity and would therefore definitely be a natural born citizen of the U.S. and therefore eligible to lawfully serve as POTUS.

First it has nothing to do with diplomatic immunity. Yes, my wife and I had diplomatic passports. I was accredited to Indonesia not Signapore. My daughter had the option of claiming Singaporean citizenship up to 18.

It wouldn't matter if we had regular passports or diplomatic passports. You handle births like mine the same way diplomat or not. I had a consular commission. You don't know what you are talking about.

There is no such thing as naturalization at birth.

109 posted on 02/13/2016 2:47:04 PM PST by kabar
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