Posted on 02/03/2016 10:16:01 AM PST by Jack Black
Thank you for your analysis. I believe it is very close to my own.
They were on their way to talk with a sheriff, it’s not like they were going to rob a bank. It could have been handled better.
The trap was set, the trap was sprung. They were shot at so they fled, flushed directly into the kill zone. The plan worked perfectly.
There should have been a better plan.
Conjecture. Understandable though, as that's the narrative LEO would have you believe.
Neither you nor anybody else who has viewed this video knows for sure whether Finicim was reaching for a gun (after raising his arms in surrender) or reacting to being shot.
I watched on WeaselZippers where their windshield was shot 4 times and he got out when he could to save those in the vehicle besides himself. Now I didn’t know that if you made a statement not to be imprisoned the LE community were authorized to shoot you 9 times including in the face precluding an open casket. Watch that guy by the vehicle slink away after firing. I don’t wish to be imprisoned in an 0 “FEMA” camp so does that mean I am a target for perforation like a rabid animal? This is not right and evidence will likely be with held showing what really happened. This is like all the HRT guys saying they would have taken the Vicki Weaver shot - for what other than blood?
Thanks for that info!
Kiryandil, lucyt, salvation
Ping to this!
Roadblock = deadly force; roadblocks aren’t to be used
Finicum was tasered and his actions were consistent with being stung, not with reaching for a weapon
This is the first comment I made when i heard about the entire assassination.Did these guys even have probable cause to make the stop?Appears they did not.Someone needs to hire a really good attorney and go to town.
Watch that guy by the vehicle slink away after firing.
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What kind of hat was he wearing?
Looks like a “Marine Style Cover” with a peak on the front, certainly not a flat brim or ball cap OSP.
AGREE!
Nothing but preplanned cold blooded Murder, execution style!!
Guided by a drone on a “Regular” traffic stop!!!
Any further questions???
I like for you to “Show Some Damn Respect” if stopped by unmarked car 20’ behind you and they start shooting at you!!!
Nothing different than Benghazi-Gate 4 Americans dead !!!
It's understandable because it FITS THE FACTS, not merely what someone wants to believe.
A) Finicum regularly wore a 9mm in an under the shoulder holster.
B) Finicum attempted to flee a police stop
C) Finicum pulled his coat back with his left hand and reached toward that area with his right hand.
D) Finicum stated he would not go to prison.
If you attempt to run from a police stop, crash through a roadblock, are know to armed and have publicly stated you will not be taken to jail, you're going to get shot trying to reach under your coat.
We have to ignore all of what Finicum said, and what he did, to arrive at the conclusion he was 'murdered' by the police. He made a decision he was willing to die with, but some on FR would rather believe he was a liar.
OSP said clearly he went for the waistband. That is where he kept his imaginary six shooter. He must have been pretty sure his fantasy weapon would take care of things. He swerved to avoid hitting the roadblock. The Lord blessed him with the lives of the women who were spared despite efforts of OSP to kill them. He certainly was wrong to ignore commands after being tasered and shot in the back. He should have kept his hands up. What a dummie!
Fleeing the police, crashing a roadblock, and then shouting "just shoot me" while reaching under your coat is called 'suicide by cop'.
The fantasy was that this protest was going to change government policy or spark a popular revolt.
He did not crash a roadblock, he swerved into a snowbank. He has women in the car. Swerving save the two women. After being shot three times and bleeding out, instead providing assistance OSP empties a hand gun into his body I guess they were yelling at him to get up on his knees and he didn’t obey. OSP says to themselves, he is not obeying lets put 6 more holes in him then we can murder the women. That will lots more fun.
“but some on FR would rather believe he was a liar”
The hell with that.
IF audio is combined with video and we hear shots AFTER he is reaching across then I’ll admit I’m wrong.
Until then, I’ll believe Finicim’s own words in which he stated he would not use his weapon unless he was being shot at.
Not according to this interview with Victoria Sharp.
According to her, Ryan Payne said he had been fired at, but then got out of the truck and surrendered. He wasn't gunned down when he did so I'm not sure what the others in the truck were afraid of.
LeVoy and the others in the truck then sat around discussing whether they should flee or not - which I doubt they would have done if they thought they were under fire.
Eventually, LeVoy decided to bolt and here we are.
Finally, neither Ammon nor anyone else detained in the initial stop has claimed that anyone was firing at the other truck. Why?
That is an interview of her reviewing FBI video.
I went by her statements prior to release of FBI video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y92PvMFL0Eg
I just heard that the FBI released the SN on the 9MM he was supposedly carrying. It was a gun stolen 2 years ago. Since Lavoy could purchase his guns legally it is doubtful he stole or bought an illegal gun. At the refuge, they said Lavoy left his guns there. Did the FBI plant the 9MM on the body? Probably...
If you read farther she discusses the original stop and LeVoy's decision to flee.
"The people in the truck were discussing what would happen if Finicum drove off, Sharp told CNN. The FBI said its agents and state troops gave verbal commands for the truck occupants to surrender.LaVoy Finicum remained determined to try to see the sheriff on his own, said Sharp. "And then he said, 'Hey guys, I'm going to drive.'"
Shawna Cox told her to get down, Sharp said. "'They might shoot when he starts driving,'" she says Cox told her.
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