Posted on 01/18/2016 9:56:50 PM PST by HarleyLady27
Many people are becoming familiar with a common ‘truth-stretching trait‘ of Ted Cruz that appears to be infecting his followers and supporters.
Same here.
Very well said.
Good luck herding cats. How’s it going so far? ;-)
The primary is brutal. There is no doubt about that. Trump is a bulldog, and he fights, hard.
He is definitely trying to defeat Cruz utterly at this point.
But he isn’t emblematic of everything that’s wrong with this country. in many ways, he’s emblematic of what I love about America.
Donald trump kicks as$ and takes names. His boots are steel toed, and his baseball bat is metal.
I am so tired of limp wristed, sissyfied America. It just makes me want to puke.
I get that some people would prefer classy, but at this point I am fighting mad, and classy ain’t doing it for me.
I am so utterly disgusted with the GOP that I am pretty much at the point to where if Trump picks anyone from the GOP to be VP, I’m not going to like it.
I’ve chosen to move in a different direction because of what the GOP has become, and if the GOP doesn’t like the direction I’ve chosen to go in, that make it even better.
This is war, and Trump is the weapon.
That’s about where I am at.
That made me very uncomfortable.
If his camp thought it was a good idea to release that, wow are they out of touch.
Perhaps the Cruz folks love it. I turned it off after about 20 seconds.
Trump has been continually “vetted” by the press since at least 1987.
As I posted earlier, you have to be a special kind of un-informed voter to confuse the Corker deal with Executive Action. The first article you posted has a similarly misleading headline, as it implies they voted for the Iran deal. They did not.
I can’t believe the Cruz team would allow that video to be leaked.
I also can’t believe they would actually release it intentionally. I don’t think anyone is that stupid.
They may not have...
Amen. Those Cruz supporters you speak of are indeed absolutely unhinged. I haven’t seen so much street level vulgar rudeness used as a promotional tool for a conservative candidate in all of my life. It simply defies common sense. Hell, I’m used to that tactic coming from the liberal lefties that I personally know as most of those ‘friendships’ have understandably fizzled. Now I find myself ready to go to war with people I once agreed with one year ago.
Just when I thought our country’s divisive culture has reached its limit from the last eight years, now comes another wave. It’s obvious the ‘divide and conquer’ plan is working overtime quite efficiently.
Wait and see.
“It’s because of these people ob FR that I no longer support Ted Cruz.”
Well there’s a deep intellectual reason for voting or not voting for someone. It’s all about feelings... Feelings not even perpetrated by the candidate. No reasoning required...
There’s plenty of vile crap spewed on all sides. The truth is all that matters. And your vote should be based on it - period.
Pathetic.
TPA: 1. Ted Cruz is a Reagan Republican: he believes in free trade as a powerful weapon to spread democracy and increase American influence -- but he wants Congress to have a role in trade agreements. TPA has been used by every President for the past 50 years to expedite the negotiation of trade deals. Our allies, and enemies, know that the US Congress is a fickle beast that just loves to tack on poison pill amendments in order to kill a bill/treaty. TPA sets a time period and the mandate of an up or down vote -- no amendments, no denial of cloture, no foot dragging. If Congress members do not like the details of the bill, they have to vote no and send it back to the drawing board. Furthermore, unlike the Constitutionally mandated treaty process, TPA allows for the House of Representatives to get a vote on a trade bill. (The Constitution says that the Senate must ratify a treaty: the House gets no vote.) Now I think we would all agree that Congressmen who have to be re-elected every 2 years are far less likely to sign onto a damaging treaty than Senators, who are only elected every 6 years -- so letting the House have a vote is a good idea.
2. The TPA bill that originally hit the Senate floor was all but identical to the TPA used by the aforementioned Presidents of the past half-century. Senator Sessions was (rightly) concerned that immigration language would be added to the bill in the House, but no such language existed in the first Senate version. Conservatives were further worried that TPA would be used to re-authorize the Export-Import bank. McConnell gave assurances that the Export Import bank not only would not be added to the TPA, but that it was dead for the rest of the legislative year.
3. To end debate on any bill, that does not fall under specific budget rules, in the Senate you need unanimous consent OR 60 yes votes during what is called a cloture vote. When the cloture vote for TPA “the Senate version†was held there were 62 yes votes. Cruz did not cast the 60th, 61st, or 62nd vote. In fact, he had already voted yes to end the debate because he had been assured by House and Senate leaders that immigration codicils would not be added and that Ex/Im was dead. Then McConnell, realizing he would not get cloture (he only had 54 votes) made a deal with 8 Senators to put Ex/Im on another bill. You can read about those shenanigans here: http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/trade-promotion-authority-senate-roll-call-vote/
4. After cloture was obtained the deal McConnell made became public and Cruz was pissed as hell. To make matters worse, the House TPA bill included the very immigration language Sessions warned about. So, both Boehner and McConnell lied to conservatives (not just Cruz) in order to garner support. Because the House and Senate bills were different, they had to be combined in what is called a "Conference Committee". That bill then had to be passed by both the House and Senate.
5. It was during the vote for cloture on the newly edited joint bill, (TPA-2 if you will) that Cruz and several others rebelled and voted no. Cruz has explained that the version of TPA that was passed was not the version supported by Reagan conservatives and he could not, in good conscience, vote for it.
6. The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal has been sent to Congress to vote on under the rules outlined in TPA. This means that TPP cannot be amended or filibustered. All members of Congress will have a chance to vote and must either vote yes or no.
Maybe his support for the bailouts?
Would you mind linking where Cruz supported the bail-outs? I know Trump did, as long as Goldman Sachs was controlling the funds, but can find nothing to dispute this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/04/2016-republican-primary-banks_n_7207142.html
I cannot answer why there is no CRBA. I don't actually care, though. I don't question Cruz's NBC credentials or his qualifications to be President.
Cruz himself has answered why he waited so long to renounce his citizenship: http://time.com/2854513/ted-cruz-canadian-citizenship/ Perhaps I ended up on this TDS list of yours because I refuse to bow to the populist demagogue intent upon continuing the degradation of our Constitutional government? Or maybe you just don't like me. I honestly do not care. Facts remain: Iran 'deal" wasn't executive action. It wasn't a legal treaty either. If you're going to debate politics, at least use the correct terms. And please don't use such sloppily headlined/worded articles to back up your case. It lowers the "tone" of the debate.
If the "fight" were for right, for that which classically defined America, I would be right there with you, but winning for winning's sake regardless of the cause is a pyrrhic victory at best.
Another deep thinker driven by emotion. Vote with your brain.
Thank you. I hope the truth still matters.
I can understand people pushing their preferred candidate.
I’d say that’s to be expected in a primary.
What I do not get is the vile behavior of a good deal of Cruz’s supporters here.
Not all of them, let me clarify, I’d say a good few of them are perfectly reasonable and nice.
But others are foul. I mean, it’s just like... WOW.
One poster earlier said “I would post a pic about Trump supporters but couldn’t find a pic of a dild*.
It’s because of these people ob FR that I no longer support Ted Cruz.
I don’t want to be associated with them or their candidate at all.
If you switch Cruz and Trumps names in this post it would have exactly the same level of validity.
Keep the faith my FRiend.
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