There Are Still No Dead Bodies!!!

CANADA Free Press ^ | 11/30/15 | Dr. Gifford Jones

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“We know that millions of North Americans are taking cholesterol-lowering drugs and are not being told these prescription drugs are robbing their heart of coenzyme Q10.”

Uhm, my cardiologist had me taking Co-Q-10, 400 mg a day along with the statins. Surely he isn’t the only one who knows about it.

[dangus]

My wife was very nearly a dead body thanks to herbal detox tea.

[Black Agnes]

My dad took statins for 20 years.

Not once did his cardiologist mention coq10.

When I insisted he ask his doctor about it the doctor replied along the lines of ‘we really don’t know for sure if statins lower coq10 or whether it’s safe to take coq10 long term’.

So my dad never took it.

Licensed cardiologist associated with a teaching hospital BTW gave this reply less than 5 years ago.

I double dog dare you to convince the 75yr old to do something his GoD MD told him he wasn’t sure was safe long term.

[Qiviut]

I double dog dare you .....

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Not me ... I know exactly what you’re talking about.

[Seruzawa]

Sure there are lots of charlatans out there hawking uselss supplements. And there are plenty of allopaths doing the same thing except with drugs, which are essentially poisons. I’m not aware of any supplements that turn you into an addict in less than a week, though. I’m afraid that prescription painkiller prescribers alone are a far far worse scourge than a few vitamin salesmen. Not to mention the insane over-prescription of antidepressants and such.

[Black Agnes]

I did manage to get my dad to stop eating a lot of grain/sugar foods though.

He was borderline needing insulin for type 2 diabetes (also linked to long term statin use) and doesn’t like needles.

I used the finger stick machine to show him that a stick of cornbread jacked his sugar high enough to need insulin.

So that’s a very once in a while thing now rather than a couple with every meal.

Coinkadinkly his cholesterol levels dropped and now he doesn’t need the statin any longer.

But if the GoD MD told him that the cornbread was probably good for him I suppose he’d get back on the statins and get over his fear of needles to take the insulin he’d need.

[sparklite2]

Glad it worked for him. I’m even happier to be off statins, having suffered muscle pain to the point I couldn’t raise my left arm above shoulder-height, and still can barely get my left hand behind my back. I stopped taking them for two months and am gradually improving. Now, I’m taking fenofibrate which doesn’t need Co-Q-10. We’ll see. I’ve read that a high percentage of statin users stop taking them due to the side effects. I understand why.

[Qiviut]

Good luck - I’ve got two seriously ill elderly relatives I’m dealing with day-to-day. I’m surprised I have any hair left & that I’m not an alcoholic ... yet. :-)

[sparklite2]

: I’m afraid that prescription painkiller prescribers alone are a far far worse scourge than a few vitamin salesmen.:

And that’s where we part ways. There’s nothing noble about suffering. If someone wants to be in chronic pain because drugs are “poison,” that’s their prerogative. Include me out.

[Boogieman]

Hmm, how many deadly diseases and conditions have “supplements” cured though?

Have to figure that into the calculus also or it is meaningless.

[JohnT416]

Magnesium chloride is most likely one of the most powerful & helpful supplements a person can take to remain healthy.

[editor-surveyor]

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Taking CoQ-10 concurrently with statins is feckless.
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[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Hmm, how many deadly diseases and conditions have “supplements” cured though?” <<

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In most cases, taking anything is not going to cure what ails you.

What is going to effect a cure is ceasing to ingest harmful things (especially prescriptions).

The number of known harmful things that the FDA allows to be added to foods without even noting them on the label is close to 100,000.

Artificial sweeteners, man made sweeteners, hormones, artificial hormones, antibiotics, aluminum fluorosilicate, artificial coloring, artificial fats....

Insane!
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[caveat emptor]

This book covers a range of heart related topics including one related to this thread - the decision made by a number of drug companies and US health authorities to get large numbers of people taking statins unnecessarily, and the resulting frequent, often debilitating side effects. Out of print but available at Amazon.

Here's a fairly recent article discussing widespread use of statins - this is in Britain, and is still going on.

Forty years ago Henry Gadsden, chief executive of the drug company Merck, expressed his frustration that the potential market for his company’s products should be limited to those with treatable illness. Ideally, he said, he would like ‘to sell to everyone’. ‘Henry Gadsden’s dream has long since come true,’ observes the medical commentator Ray Moynihan. ‘The marketing strategy of drug companies now targets the hundreds of millions of the apparently well, persuading them they have some medical condition that warrants treatment.’

The jewel in the crown of modern pharmaceuticals and the apotheosis of Henry Gadsden’s vision of selling ‘to everyone’ are cholesterol-lowering statins. They are the wonder drugs of our age, credited with saving tens of thousands of lives and generating for their manufacturers £15 billion a year in annual revenues. They are, by far, the single most profitable drug ever discovered. Already the most widely prescribed class of drugs in Britain, they could soon become even more so following the recent recommendation by a committee of cholesterol experts advising the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) that those eligible for statins should be extended to everyone aged 60 and over, boosting the numbers taking them to an eye-watering 12 million — or one in four of the adult population.
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It [claims of "virtually no side effects"] is certainly contradicted by independent surveys of those taking statins that suggest the prevalence of muscular aches and pains to be 100 times greater than reported in trials, along with numerous other problems of fatigue, depression, poor memory and concentration, sleep disturbances and reduced libido.

I first became aware of the scale of this hidden epidemic of apparent statin-induced symptoms after describing in my Telegraph column the experience of a man in his seventies whose general health following the successful repair of an aortic aneurysm had gradually deteriorated to a state (as he described it) of ‘chronic decrepitude’ — such that when flying to Hawaii to attend his son’s wedding he had required a wheelchair at the various stopovers. Yet returning three weeks later he had walked back through Heathrow — having forgotten to pack the statins he had been taking since his operation.

This account of his near-miraculous recovery following his statin-free excursion prompted hundreds of letters and emails from readers describing their own similar experiences. Those who had been previously fit and well were usually quick to spot the adverse effects on their wellbeing: ‘Within a couple of weeks I went from an active 65-year-old to a doddering old man,’ as one put it. Most only realised the devastating impact of statins on their lives when advised by friends and relatives to stop taking them.

Thus the ‘bottom line’, as Professor Abramson describes it, is that for more than 95 per cent of those taking statins, they neither prolong their lives nor prevent serious illness while some may experience side effects ranging from the ‘minor and reversible to the serious and irreversible’.

You might also check out this story, Lipitor - Thief of Memory, about problems encountered by astronaut Duane Graveline, M.D., M.P.H., while taking Lipitor.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “My wife was very nearly a dead body thanks to herbal detox tea.” <<

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Not likely, but it makes a neat sensational story, kind of like farting in church.
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[Boogieman]

“In most cases, taking anything is not going to cure what ails you.

What is going to effect a cure is ceasing to ingest harmful things (especially prescriptions).”

Where did you get your medical degree, pray tell?

[dangus]

You say not likely. But I’ll take the opinions of the doctors who actually saw her toxin levels, liver tests, EEGs, etc., over some idiot on the internet who doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.

[editor-surveyor]

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Cue up the music, OK!

Bullshit is best served with the proper mood enhancers.