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Why One Gun or Three Guns is a Bad Idea for SHTF
AShooting Journal ^ | 11/17/2015 | Bilj

Posted on 11/17/2015 12:29:45 PM PST by w1n1

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To: DCBryan1

Once you know how they work, suppressors are easy to build from typically available items. Buy the adapters now and build the suppressors when the rule of law collapses.


41 posted on 11/17/2015 1:44:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Like I said, in an URBAN environment, the range of the Mosin won’t matter. You will rarely see that type of range or be able to acquire a target in an URBAN environment.

Meanwhile, a big honking, LOUD Mosin will be very noticeable.

The Israeli’s used integrally suppressed 10/22s to drop Palis. It’s become quite popular. Combined with urban ranges and semi-auto action with a 10 or 25 round magazine, and you can own your castle with anonymity.

But if we’re talking 350yds, why limit yourself to the heavy, unwieldy Mosin when an intermediate cartridge rifle like an AR or a Rem/Win bolt would do the trick?


42 posted on 11/17/2015 1:45:05 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: DCBryan1

Are you growing weed in that greenhouse?

The flowers look nice, though.


43 posted on 11/17/2015 1:46:00 PM PST by dmz
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To: doorgunner69

We will all have a problem. There are plenty of gibsmedats in L-Ville, as in *every* city. However, each different population density area will have it’s own drawbacks.

I will say that this state (excepting liberal L-Ville & Lexington) is a gun culture state and well armed.

Example:
An FBI report on the number of gun purchase background checks, January 1 through September 30, shows that Kentucky performed more than twice as many background checks in the first nine months of the year as California and Texas combined.

According to the FBI, Kentucky performed 2,337,494 background checks by the end of September, California performed 1,164,806, and Texas did 1,059,166. Even if you combine the background checks performed in California and Texas—a combined figure of 2,223,972—Kentucky beats that total by 113,522 background checks. This is quite a feat, considering the fact that Kentucky is much smaller geographically and population-wise than California or Texas, let alone compared to the two states combined.

Read that again. TWICE AS MANY AS BOTH TX AND CA COMBINED.

All of this is grist for the mill. We prepare as best we can and wait for the possible tsunami of evil. It is what it is. I am not young, but am in good shape. I can only promise that I will take as many of those worthless fookers with me as I can.


44 posted on 11/17/2015 1:56:16 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: w1n1

In Phase 3, I would add the following: Clear your fields of fire, install multiple double apron barbed wire fencing with concertina wire and tangle foot encircling your perimeter, along with phu-gas containers on likely avenues of approach.

It worked for me before, and I’m sure it would work again.


45 posted on 11/17/2015 2:08:41 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I also consider it a possibility that our local LE might even work with us to organize armed and responsible adults to maintain control.

Back during the Year-2000 angst, one Iowa sheriff proposed deputizing all CCW holders 'just in case".

I thought that brought up a modern-day "Minuteman" problem. Suppose that scenario went down and you were "called up". Would you be willing to leave your family and answer the call to go out of your immediate area?

46 posted on 11/17/2015 2:25:58 PM PST by Oatka (ES)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m sorry to hear that. A close relative gave up everything except .22 a few years ago. Still, even a .22 LR can do a whole lot more than most options, especially in the right hands. I hope things are going better, or at least not going worse, for you these days.


47 posted on 11/17/2015 2:46:16 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

“You will rarely see that type of range or be able to acquire a target in an URBAN environment.”

Nonsense. Are you saying that from the roof of a building you can’t see even a block and a half down a street? Really?


48 posted on 11/17/2015 2:53:34 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: DCBryan1

LOL!


49 posted on 11/17/2015 2:55:51 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: driftdiver
OR they could decide to take what you have to improve their own chances.

Most (not all, but most) rural cops I've known are not that type. They would feel a whole lot safer with the armed half of the county on their side than trying to protect their homes on their own. A rural area that generates its own food can hold out until order is reestablished. Without the people, it cannot take care of the livestock, dairy cows, the crops, or self-defense. Only a fool would get excited about his jackboots when his family's safety depends on the community. Most rural cops are not fools.

50 posted on 11/17/2015 2:57:19 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

If someone with a scoped Moisin-Nagant has a bead on anyone, anywhere,m at any time, that is a problem. Fortunately, most decent snipers will be more on the defense side than offense. Zombies move in hordes rather than thoughtfully, at least in the movies and for the most part in real life.


51 posted on 11/17/2015 2:59:43 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kartographer

If the S ever hits the fan, EVERYONE is going to have a gun. Guns will be cheap. You’ll be able to buy them by the pound at the local flea market. There are at least 300M guns in the United States; guns will be everywhere.


52 posted on 11/17/2015 3:02:16 PM PST by Toliph
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To: JRandomFreeper

Small arms, IEDs or an RPG???
Good luck figuring things out!


53 posted on 11/17/2015 3:11:10 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Toliph

True that.

Ammo might be a whole nuther matter ...


54 posted on 11/17/2015 3:24:04 PM PST by glock rocks (I don't always talk to liberals, but when I do, I order the large fries.)
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To: w1n1
During this phase, if you're walking around with an AR or AK strapped to your back you're likely to be taken for a looter and shot on sight.

Why on earth would you be out walking around in such a situation? The most important thing is that you get the drop on any evildoers, not the other way around. Walking around outdoors makes you an easy target. All the guns in the world won't help you if they shoot you before you even see them.

Common sense suggests you need a handgun for inside your house, a shotgun for keeping people out, and a long gun for distance. Exact details are less important than having those. The only reason I can see for having many different guns beyond that is to be able to use many kinds of ammo you might come accross, but it's a lot easier and cheaper just to buy lots of ammo in the first place.

55 posted on 11/17/2015 3:26:02 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: w1n1

Shotgun, 45 and my M1A....oh, I guess I would find some use for my 30-06 with its Luepold MKIV(I love parades)


56 posted on 11/17/2015 4:25:34 PM PST by Vendome (they arDon't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Pollster1

That’s why integral suppressed 1022s work to disperse the pali hordes. Drop a few int he front line and the followers tend to be unable to climb the pile. BUT when they do, their higher profile is a welcomed sight for the sites.


57 posted on 11/17/2015 4:32:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ozzymandus
In 1937 European people didn't think about protecting themselves...

In 1905 Serbia, Romania and Greece, and Bulgaria...had no idea what was to come.

The War of 1812 was anticipated...and reacted to.

History repeats....over and over...

58 posted on 11/17/2015 4:35:50 PM PST by Osage Orange (I'm a bigot...because I don't want Muslims coming to America.....)
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To: Pollster1

I think the chances are good the authorities will end up searching for hoarders.


59 posted on 11/17/2015 4:36:16 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The purpose for MRAPS all across the land in police lots.


60 posted on 11/17/2015 4:39:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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