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To: lifeofgrace

Its that kind of thing that drove me away from Christianity. All the talk about submitting, and turning the other cheek, and letting the bad guys win. I am a man and a human being I live in this fallen human world. It is my sacred duty to protect my family. I will fight!


2 posted on 10/02/2015 6:32:26 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: olepap

Jesus told Peter to sell his coat and buy a sword, Christianity has nothing to do with being a sissy. Protecting one’s family is commanded by God.


7 posted on 10/02/2015 6:39:22 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian *born again believer in Jesus Christ* Black Man!)
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To: olepap
Its that kind of thing that drove me away from Christianity. All the talk about submitting, and turning the other cheek, and letting the bad guys win. I am a man and a human being I live in this fallen human world.

Saying that you were driven away from Christianity while saying that you live in a fallen world is incoherent.

Cordially,

9 posted on 10/02/2015 6:46:17 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: olepap

Quit because of turning the other cheek? How lame an excuse. Did Yeshua turn the other cheek when he went into His Father’s house and kicked out those people calling them names and using a whip? I have four cheeks and when I run out of them you better believe I’ll fight back.


10 posted on 10/02/2015 7:01:32 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: olepap

“Turning the other cheek” refers to slights and insults not likely to do harm, like a slap. There is a disturbing “Peace and Love” movement in Christianity that is more akin to hippies than to biblical teaching, I agree.


12 posted on 10/02/2015 7:21:46 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: olepap

A miniscule knowledge of the Bible and Christianity is a problem. Study all of it and you’ll find the truth. Skimming over the atheist sound bites and assuming they make sense is a problem.


16 posted on 10/02/2015 7:38:13 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Beware the tyranny of the easily offended. (Stossel))
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To: olepap
I am a man and a human being I live in this fallen human world. It is my sacred duty to protect my family. I will fight!

You and me both, brother.

18 posted on 10/02/2015 7:43:10 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: olepap

Then you completely miss the writer’s point. “When you have done all you can, to stand”. He didn’t say to turn the other cheek, or submit. Our charge as Christians is to acknowledge Christ. These young people are dancing before the Lord today because they proclaimed Christ when they could not protect themselves. I praise God for them. They are heroes of the faith.


19 posted on 10/02/2015 7:43:39 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: olepap

I didn’t see that the article and I don’t see that the Christian faith tells you not to defend yourself. The man who walked towards the shooter and was shot 5-7 times was literally laying down his life for others. That’s the core Christian belief. But the question is, if I had been there, would I have professed my faith knowing that I would be shot?


24 posted on 10/02/2015 8:17:34 AM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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To: olepap

Well. Christ told his disciples to “sell their cloak & buy a
sword”. Yeshua (Christ) was NOT a wimp. The Roman soldiers
didn’t kill Him until he was READY & knew the time was right. - He had already walked right through them when they
were after him.


25 posted on 10/02/2015 8:20:50 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: olepap

You lost all ready, dude.


27 posted on 10/02/2015 8:43:54 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: olepap
I agree with your will (and RIGHT) to fight. But, before you close your assessment of true Christianity, remember that our Christian Founding Fathers fought a Revolutionary War.
28 posted on 10/02/2015 8:44:57 AM PDT by caprock
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