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To: AMDG&BVMH
No. He wore the patch to communicate to other members of the group he rode to T.P. with that day such as Bandido President David Martinez. Would he take the chance to wear on his person, some symbolism, that could be misinterpreted by so “esteemed a Person” in his biker circle? NO.

You're overdramatizing the matter. It's a patch. As others have noted, it's more or less a companion patch to another. The analogy of a Confederate flag is a very good one. It means, probably, that the guy's Southern. Or just maybe, likes the Southern culture. Or the Dukes of Hazzard. Or even just likes to piss off the politically correct.

But very, very unlikely that he is a Civil War reenactor with responsibility for replica musket and cannon logistics, right? Although your actual reenactor will probably bear the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (there, threw that in for the purists) on his gear too.

He knew what he was wearing and what other bikers would take it to mean. If he wore the 13 patch because he really meant it to mean something like “the Mystery of the Missing 13th floor” he could have been not only misunderstood by the serious bikers whose company he esteemed, but beaten into a bloody pulp.

More overdrama. That is not how it works.

He did not have a metonymous meaning in mind.

A number patch is, by definition, metonymous.

No, it was not the Mystery of the Missing 13th floor.

Funny...

It meant what Bandidos in Texas take it to mean, nothing more, nothing less.

Agree, and that meaning is nothing to do with drugs or violence, rather with philosophical outlook. For example, I have a few patches in order on the front of my own vest. One on top of the other.

Consider those patches as arrayed.

Are they meant to indicate that I am
  • generously endowed;

  • have a preference for military personnel;

  • and in penetrating their females from behind
Or might it simply be that I'm well over two meters tall and weigh more than an eighth of a ton, am married to a remarkably lovely former USAF officer, and I happen to think the flag patch is hot?




Not everything is a secret sign or blatant assault on the good church ladies of TexasGator's neighborhood. Don't read too much into it. In fact, it would probably be safer to assume - at least where a three piece patch club is involved - that patches are pretty standard, and less customized to the individual, than you might think. I am not a member of a club. Consequently, each individual patch I wear is personally selected for opinion or effect or humor or what have you, and arranged similarly according to my own taste.

A club vest, by contrast, is the property of the club and you're not going to see a whole lot of customization on them any more than you'd see such customization on a military uniform.

Similarly, the Bandido or Desgraciados club member is not likely to give the diamond 13 patch a whole lot of thought, any more than an Army officer is going to give a whole lot of thought about the one piece of piping on his uniform v. another part. "It's just part of the uniform."

In this case, it's probably just a standard part of the cut. Don't read lurid things into it. Mundanity, while undramatic, tends to be the rule in life.
98 posted on 09/24/2015 1:10:00 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

I’d add another thought. Don’t worry so much about patches. Pay more attention to tattoos.


99 posted on 09/24/2015 1:12:49 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: Robert Teesdale

Your American Style patch bothered me. Red White and Blue, our Sacred Federal Colors, used on a patch of a woman.

Now I know why it bothered me.

I am at the farm with fresh air and sweat, and time to think while doing manual labor.

In the interest of following up on my research, I even have the reference here at the farm.

Intro: TOO many brave men have died, defending the colors. To let your use of those sacred colors on a patch using a woman to provoke innuendo, to go unremarked, I cannot.

So here it is:

One example of men who gave up their lives for the Sacred Colors of our Nation. Not to mention Iwo Jima ... well people know about that, they do know know about this example from the Civil War.

“The incident that made the most vivid impression was the devoted stand made by the color guard [of the 103rd OVI of Ohio] in defense of their flag. The sergeant who carried the colors, Martin Striebler [Streibler], was a member of Co. E, a magnificent man, six feet and four inches tall, of gigantic mold . . . was beloved by the entire regiment for his gentle ways, his voice was soft and kind . . . . too brave to lie down with the rest and although so ordered, stood up manfully waving the colors over the Regiment. The color guard stood up with him until they were all killed or wounded . . . The colors were seized by one corporal after another . . . “

Etc.

That bloodied flag is now in the flag room at Columbus, Ohio.

And now . . . OK, freedom of expression, bikers use those Sacred Colors that so many of this one Regiment died for, in this one Civil War Battle, not to mention all the other times and places that brave men died to protect the Colors, as a patch of sexual innuendo?? Spare me, PLEASE.

That is not what the Red White and Blue is about.


108 posted on 09/28/2015 2:17:08 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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