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Global Markets Turmoil After China Extends Currency War To 2nd Day - Devalues Yuan To 4 Year Lows
Zerohedge ^ | 8-11-15 | Durden

Posted on 08/11/2015 7:41:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Chinese stocks opened lower, extending yesterday's losses, after The PBOC weakened its Yuan FIX dramatically for the 2nd consecutive day (from 6.1162 Monday to 6.2298 last night to 6.3306).

Offshore Yuan fell another 9 handles against the USD after China closed but was hovering at 6.40 as the market opens (now at 11 hnadles weaker at 6.51). Bear in mind the utter devastation in Chinese credit markets that data showed occurred in July, it remains ironic that for the 3rd days in a row, Chinese margin debt balances grew. Before the real fun and games started, Chinese officials once again exclaimed that their data is real (denying any mismatches between GDP Deflator and CPI) as China CDS spiked to 2 year highs. US equity futures are tumbling, bonds bid, and gold bouncing off the initial jerk lower.

PBOC makes some comments (like last night's)...

*PBOC SAYS NO ECONOMIC BASIS FOR YUAN'S CONSTANT DEVALUATION *PBOC SAYS YUAN WON'T CONTINUOUSLY DEVALUE *PBOC SAYS MOVE OF YUAN REFERENCE PRICE IS NORMAL *CHINA YUAN MECHANISM CHANGE MAKES FIXING RATES MORE REASONABLE

And then there is this (from Xinhua):

China's state-owned news 4-year lowsagency Xinhua said: "China is not waging a currency war; merely fixing a discrepancy."

"The central parity rate revision was designed to make the yuan more market-driven and in line with market expectations," it said in a comment piece published on its web site.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: china; currency; yuan
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It's not a "Currency War" Currency War.

99 out of 100 sheeple have no idea what a big F-in deal this is, and the huge effect it is goin to have on their lives and livelihood.

Hopey-Changey!

1 posted on 08/11/2015 7:41:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Tell us about the effect this is going to have on our life. Maybe your post won’t get removed.


2 posted on 08/11/2015 7:42:59 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: tcrlaf

I thought the value of currency was market based.


3 posted on 08/11/2015 7:43:47 PM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Everything in China is hocus-pocus and will eventually collapse. They even lie about their GDP and everything else.


4 posted on 08/11/2015 7:46:57 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The price of Chinese imports gets LOWER, making it harder for U.S. Companies, already saddled with the added costs of runaway Government, Edicts, and Regulations, to compete.


5 posted on 08/11/2015 7:47:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: xzins

Not in China.

And a central bank can set their currency price by making a market in gold or pegging to another currency.


6 posted on 08/11/2015 7:47:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: xzins

The markets themselves are based on lies.


7 posted on 08/11/2015 7:48:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: tcrlaf

Obama! This is aimed at you. Are you listening.


8 posted on 08/11/2015 7:48:15 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Vermont Lt; All

Japan and South Korea are going to be forced to respond in kind very soon. (like 24-72 hours) Then the real fun begins.


9 posted on 08/11/2015 7:52:58 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: xzins

Value of a currency is market based in the long run, but in the short run it can be forced otherwise. Doing so will provide short term benefits, but eventually the disparity gets so acute that the system collapses. The point of a currency war is to make the other country’s economic system do the collapsing first.


10 posted on 08/11/2015 7:53:32 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: tcrlaf

Tit-for-tat, “beggar thy neighbor” vicious circle to begin soon?


11 posted on 08/11/2015 7:58:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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Imagine the GOP POTUS who gets to set this straight and just how easy it will be.


12 posted on 08/11/2015 8:01:08 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SkyPilot

Free markets?


13 posted on 08/11/2015 8:01:41 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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We didn’t listen to Perot when he told us about NAFTA.

We didn’t listen to Romney when he warned us about China.

We’d better listen to Trump about China. He’s been warning us. This is our last chance.


14 posted on 08/11/2015 8:07:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: 1010RD

From Zerohedge:

“this devaluation is likely not a one-time event but rather the beginning of an ongoing and persistent depreciation of the CNY versus the USD.

The embedded USD short position within the carry trades will begin to result in losses and margin calls as the USD appreciates versus the CNY, thus forcing investors to liquidate some of their positions.

These trades, which took years to amass, could unwind abruptly and exert an influence of historic magnitude on markets and economies.”

Translation: Commodities are going to get crushed in the coming weeks, as people sell “physical” to cover currency losses.


15 posted on 08/11/2015 8:07:52 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Heh heh heh.

$1 / gallon gasoline, here I come.

Incidentally, what will this do for China's coal purchases (from Australia, I believe)?

16 posted on 08/11/2015 8:17:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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17 posted on 08/11/2015 8:24:13 PM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Cruz 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)
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To: 1010RD

We won’t have that long

But no worries, surely obama’s crack team of international financiers will be all over this

Gotta save the man child’s legacy Pacific Trade Pact , after all


18 posted on 08/11/2015 8:26:27 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Vermont Lt

Pegs??? Hahaha. Not so. They can TRY to peg to another piece of paper, but sometimes it blows up in their face.

For further immediate details, ask the Swiss. Ask them what happened to their famous (or infamous) 1.20 peg to the Fishwrapper (that’s the Euro, for those FReepers not familiar with my longstanding slang).

Renminbi has been UNDERvalued for years, and this new lowering of its value will stab a bunch of countries, especially including the stupid Brazilians, right square in the knee.


19 posted on 08/11/2015 8:29:27 PM PDT by SAJ
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Japan and South Korea are going to be forced to respond in kind very soon.
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Japan and South korea have already devalued their currency as has the eurozone. they all want to export to the USA and undercut US exports to other countries.

they figure to export their way out of their problems. likely they’ll be successful. the usa will pay the price.


20 posted on 08/11/2015 8:48:12 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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