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To: kabar; MuttTheHoople; dfwgator
The cream of the Germany Army and by far the most casualties were suffered at the hands of the Soviets. The greatest battle in terms of size, casualties, and significance was the Battle of Kursk, which dwarfed D-Day. The outnumbered German Army was chewed up by the Soviets who suffered over 20 million casualties during WWII. We didn't kick the German's ass, the Soviets did.

But the Soviets were receiving massive aid from the US that made their victories over the Germans possible. Getting over 100,000 2.5 ton Studebaker trucks from the US certainly improved the mobility of Soviet forces and allowed them to win the battle of Kursk.

177 posted on 08/03/2015 9:20:39 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Getting over 100,000 2.5 ton Studebaker trucks from the US certainly improved the mobility of Soviet forces and allowed them to win the battle of Kursk.

No doubt US aid helped the Soviets, but 100,000 trucks did not win the battle of Kursk. How many US provided trucks were involved in the battle?

We give weapons and humvees to the Iraqis and they surrender them at the first shot. The Soviet soldier and the willingness to sacrifice huge numbers of people to achieve the objective won the battle of Kursk. The Soviets also had a superior battle plan.

Militarily, Zhukov wielded a strength consisted of 1,300,000 men, 3,600 tanks, 20,000 pieces of artillery, and 2,400 aircraft. On the other side, the Germans were about to attack with over 800,000 men (including three Waffen SS divisions), 2,700 tanks, and 1,800 aircraft.

At the end of the fighting in Kursk, the German forces had suffered 200,000 casualties and lost 500 tanks, while Soviet losses amounted to 860,000 casualties and 1,500 tanks. The Soviets lost 1,200 aircraft.

When you see the size of these casualties and compare them against those on D-Day for all of the allies or the US total casualties for the entire war in both theaters, you can understand why the Soviets bristle when they hear Americans claiming credit for defeating the Germans or something silly about how 100,000 trucks won the day. Nonsense.

We lost 407,000 KIA and 600,000 wounded for the entire war. The Soviets lost more than that in one battle.

201 posted on 08/03/2015 4:35:02 PM PDT by kabar
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