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Scientists Confirm 'Impossible' EM Drive Propulsion
Hacked Magazine ^ | July 27, 2015 | Giulio Prisco

Posted on 07/27/2015 4:32:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 07/27/2015 4:32:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The principle of generating small amounts of finite improbability by simply hooking the logic circuits of a Bambleweeny 57 Sub-Meson Brain to an atomic vector plotter suspended in a strong Brownian Motion producer (say a nice hot cup of tea) were of course well understood — and such generators were often used to break the ice at parties by making all the molecules in the hostess’s undergarments leap simultaneously one foot to the left, in accordance with the theory of indeterminacy.

Many respectable physicists said that they weren’t going to stand for this, partly because it was a debasement of science, but mostly because they didn’t get invited to those sorts of parties.

Another thing they couldn’t stand was the perpetual failure they encountered while trying to construct a machine which could generate the infinite improbability field needed to flip a spaceship across the mind-paralyzing distances between the farthest stars, and at the end of the day they grumpily announced that such a machine was virtually impossible.

Then, one day, a student who had been left to sweep up after a particularly unsuccessful party found himself reasoning in this way: If, he thought to himself, such a machine is a virtual impossibility, it must have finite improbability. So all I have to do in order to make one is to work out how exactly improbable it is, feed that figure into the finite improbability generator, give it a fresh cup of really hot tea... and turn it on!

He did this and was rather startled when he managed to create the long sought after golden Infinite Improbability generator. He was even more startled when just after he was awarded the Galactic Institute’s Prize for Extreme Cleverness he was lynched by a rampaging mob of respectable physicists who had realized that one thing they couldn’t stand was a smart-ass.


2 posted on 07/27/2015 4:34:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this how ufos fly? :)


3 posted on 07/27/2015 4:34:38 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: dfwgator

I like and understand your post better than the one above yours.


4 posted on 07/27/2015 4:38:25 PM PDT by Fungi
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5 posted on 07/27/2015 4:40:31 PM PDT by EEGator
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One thing is certain, that we need a continuous thrust device not burning up heavy rocket fuel and then waiting out the ride. With constant acceleration all the difficulty of these solar system trips will be gone.

Well not all the difficulty but it will be a lot quicker to pop over to Mars.


6 posted on 07/27/2015 4:42:15 PM PDT by Williams
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Why the mocking? You see something wrong with the NASA research?


7 posted on 07/27/2015 4:45:18 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
*yawn*

Chester Gould thought of this over a half century ago.



8 posted on 07/27/2015 4:46:15 PM PDT by Bratch
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PAGING MR TESLA

MR NIKOLA TESLA

PAGING MR TESLA


9 posted on 07/27/2015 4:51:04 PM PDT by RightWingNut
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But will it end up being one of those things that works in a lab but impracticable elsewhere?


10 posted on 07/27/2015 4:54:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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NASA Eagleworks is certainly legit. Kinda like the skunkworks.

I believe this is the same Dr Harold White who claims to have achieved nanometer scale warping of space.


11 posted on 07/27/2015 4:56:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Williams

If we built a spaceship attached to enough helium balloons to make it weigh almost nothing, how much fuel would it save putting it into orbit?


12 posted on 07/27/2015 4:57:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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Interesting.

Looks credible
http://www.aiaa-propulsionenergy.org/


13 posted on 07/27/2015 4:58:34 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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Well, if they can get thrust from the ‘quantum vacuum particles’ aka zero point energy, why use it on a space drive? Why not pipe it to an electrical generator turbine to produce “free” electricity? That’s the real big news here, a zero point energy motor.

If that’s possible then why not just send the electricity through a super-conducting coil for direct thrust? With such a Z-motor it would provide vehicle electricity plus thrust.

NASA’s into some pretty good advanced propulsion research lately. The other day there was an article on an FTL drive using space compression/expansion technology.

Of course, IMO these technologies are Black projects going back decades so these studies may go dark soon.


14 posted on 07/27/2015 4:59:59 PM PDT by Justa
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Maybe it pushes out fermions? Is that the principle at work?


15 posted on 07/27/2015 5:00:37 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BFL


16 posted on 07/27/2015 5:03:11 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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The effects of thrust are also relative. If, for example, the otherwise micro-thrust of this EM drive was put on a craft equipped with a mass-negator (anti-gravity), the resulting acceleration and speed could be staggering. And yes, mass-negation has been demonstrated through experiments with fast-rotating magnetic fields.

Throw a trillion dollars in black money at all this for the last few decades (or more) and who knows what the government is sitting on!


17 posted on 07/27/2015 5:04:16 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Why the mocking? You see something wrong with the NASA research?

Yes.

NASA has never submitted a report for peer review. Therefore, until one appears it's grandstanding at best, shameless fundraising at worst.

The experimental results are not sufficiently distinct from noise to establish that the result is real, and the experimentalists claiming this result have latched onto one phoney-baloney theory after another in an attempt to make their claims plausible. Last year, it was a relativistic effect produced by unbalanced Lorentz force at the different width ends of the resonant cavity. That claim got pretty well blown-up and now they're raving about virtual particles.

The reality is that if the experimental effect was large enough for them to get a peer-reviewed result into publication, theorists all over the world would be shoving each other out of the way to explain the effect, rather than the other way around: a handful of dubious "theories" without any serious experimental evidence for them to explain.

18 posted on 07/27/2015 5:04:51 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Next stop: anywhere but Willoughby.)
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Maybe it pushes out fermions? Is that the principle at work?

It seems to create an imbalance in the surrounding EM field. Then, I presume, it would "fall" down the "side" of the field, or better yet, "surf" the EM field "wave" it created between its inside and its outside.

And if you don't like that theory, well, I'll just come up with another one! LOL!

19 posted on 07/27/2015 5:07:57 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: cripplecreek

Some forum posts.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=rad2gjdji59ovl5vvt5omj5pl0&topic=37642.msg1405604#msg1405604


20 posted on 07/27/2015 5:15:07 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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