Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Donald Trump and the Fed-Up Crowd (VDH)
PJ Media ^ | 7-26-2015 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/27/2015 5:28:41 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

(snip)

To explain the inexplicable rise of Donald Trump is to calibrate the anger of a fed-up crowd that is enjoying the comeuppance of an elite that never pays for the ramifications of its own ideology. The elite media, whose trademark is fad and cant, writes off the fed-up crowd as naïve and susceptible to demagoguery as the contradictory and hypocritical Trump manipulates their anger. In fact, they probably got it backwards. Trump is a transitory vehicle of the fed-up crowd, a current expression of their distaste for both Democratic and Republican politics, but not an end in and of himself. The fed-up crowd is tired of being demagogued to death by progressives, who brag of “working across the aisle” and “bipartisanship” as they ram through agendas with executive orders, court decisions, and public ridicule. So the fed-ups want other conservative candidates to emulate Trump’s verve, energy, eagerness to speak the unspeakable, and no-holds barred Lee Atwater style — without otherwise being Trump.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: trump; vdh
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last
Only last paragraph was excerpted. Read what's led up to it.
1 posted on 07/27/2015 5:28:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Servant of the Cross

VDH ping


2 posted on 07/27/2015 5:31:10 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot
The furor over the death of Ms. Steinle reflected the mounting outrage — especially at the hypocrisy of the elites who crafted sanctuary-city legislation. Would they be so nonchalant about the law if a daughter of one of the architects of the legislation were to be gunned down by an illegal alien? Would San Franciscans object if Tulsa nullified federal gun legislation or declared open season on federally protected species? Only liberalism can take a reactionary Old Confederacy idea of federal nullification and turn it into a progressive fad.

Very well written piece !!!

3 posted on 07/27/2015 5:35:44 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot
The elite media, whose trademark is fad and cant, writes off the fed-up crowd as naïve and susceptible to demagoguery . . .

Of late, VDH seems to falling into the elite media category himself. The entire piece could have been written without slamming Donald Trump.

4 posted on 07/27/2015 5:39:52 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA

They would consider their children just another brick in the wall on the road to their communist paradise!


5 posted on 07/27/2015 5:44:44 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Arm_Bears

The crux of the article is correct; whichever of the candidates, Walker or Cruz, can pick up on these issues without the Trump bombast will win the nomination. I believe the media and the powers that be don’t calculate that there is a very substantial number of us in the base that will NOT vote for Jeb Bush under any circumstances. he is nothing but, as Reagan used to say, a pale pastel of a liberal Democrat on virtually every position and he ain’t very pale compared to his friend, the confused, aging Hillary.


6 posted on 07/27/2015 5:47:04 AM PDT by laconic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Arm_Bears

IMO VDH is tweaked over Trump. He’s trying to analyze Trump’s trajectory with finely-honed intellectual tools and frankly he’s not especially understanding the populist nor grass-roots appeal. VDH is VDH. He’s not really hitting on all cylinders (as he usually does) on this topic. Yes, “of late”, because Trump has been his focus of late. VDH doesn’t quite get it and is not ready to accept it.


7 posted on 07/27/2015 5:57:27 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

Listening to Twisted Sister’s “We’re not gonna take it” while reading this piece, adds to the flavor.


8 posted on 07/27/2015 5:59:14 AM PDT by 11th_VA ("We're not gonna take it ANYMORRRRRE !!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arm_Bears

His NRO articles (plural) lately does seem to ‘not get the base’. Especially the one about Obama and Trump peas of the same pot.

But in this new one, at least he gets why we were so fed up right.


9 posted on 07/27/2015 6:00:19 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

D’oh! stupid proof reading.

pot => pod


10 posted on 07/27/2015 6:01:12 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: laconic

I disagree.

Things are so screwed up after the past seven years that Trumps ‘bombast’ is truly NEEDED.
‘Speaking softly’ just will not cut through all the BS. Loud, louder, and loudest MIGHT get through and save the day.
We will need to try something ‘new’—before the bloodshed begins in earnest.

As it will.


11 posted on 07/27/2015 6:05:18 AM PDT by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

VDH nails it, no argument there.

As I said, though, the seemingly obligatory trashing of Trump was unnecessary and, IMHO, detracted from an otherwise excellent article.


12 posted on 07/27/2015 6:19:32 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

That’s the best thing I’ve read in a long time.


13 posted on 07/27/2015 6:32:45 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

Oh, that is excellent!

VDH is fired up.


14 posted on 07/27/2015 6:41:37 AM PDT by SuzyQue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

It would be interesting to do a survey of Trump supporters and see how the numbers compare to those who have previously identified themselves with the Tea Party.... after all, the roots that give rise to that support are the same no? Folks who are fed up with Republicans that in the words of Cruz are just part of the Washington cartel.


15 posted on 07/27/2015 7:12:51 AM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

“At some point the fed-ups will have vented and become fed up themselves with the circus-master Trump”

In other words, Hanson has the strange belief that angry people are satisfied to vent, instead of vote.


16 posted on 07/27/2015 7:51:13 AM PDT by odawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

“a very substantial number of us in the base that will NOT vote for Jeb Bush under any circumstances”

I hope you are correct about the numbers. And I hope conservatives truly see Trump as a passing vehicle in their move to a different candidate. Too many seem to have the attitude that “Trump is a bully but he’s OUR bully!”

Passion alone is an uncertain motivator. Passion with truth and self-control is better. The only reason I can understand for Cruz not being at the top of the polling is that he is a person of character and integrity and we are not as interested in those qualities as we are in outright revenge and a little thuggery of our own. Do we do evil (even against the leftists) that good will come? It’s tempting, but I think not. We defeat them with the truth and with the Constitution of the U.S. We enforce existing laws. Some radical changes are in order but we do change things with decency and with order. Our goal should be to do things in a manner that is above reproach. Wise as serpents but innocent as doves. That is the legacy we should be interested in leaving.

Cruz has demonstrated that he’s not afraid of the Washington elite but he will still be honorable and play by the rules in his crusade to take on the left. Many will pooh pooh him for those traits and say we need a Gen. Paton like Trump to kick butt and take names and if he skirts the law a little in the process so much the better “cause those lefty’s did it, too,” but I think not. If that’s the example we set then we are no better than they are - and I know we are better. It’s an unfair advantage for those willing to break the law to achieve their goals but that is part of the battle we are in against abject evil. The problem for the right, and conservatives in general, is that we are not on our knees enough in this fight with unrighteousness. We are trusting w-a-y too much human wisdom and personalities and money and numbers. God thinned out the troops before he sent Gideon into battle. We could learn a lesson here about where our strength should ultimately come from. But to the natural man, that’s just foolishness.


17 posted on 07/27/2015 8:00:13 AM PDT by Lake Living
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot; Kaslin; neverdem; EXCH54FE; 2ndDivisionVet; Rummyfan; smoothsailing; Hojczyk; ...

VDH ping ...


18 posted on 07/27/2015 8:06:32 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot
So the fed-ups want other conservative candidates to emulate Trump’s verve, energy, eagerness to speak the unspeakable, and no-holds barred Lee Atwater style — without otherwise being Trump.

Far from one of VDH's best columns. I don't think many of the "fed-ups" believe there are other candidates who will "speak the unspeakable" with any amount of effectiveness. Most have had their chances for years and none have yet succeeded in drawing a fraction of attention to the issues that Trump has.

I think the "fed-ups" want the issues addressed and they will be fine with it if Trump is the only one who will, or can do it.

19 posted on 07/27/2015 8:10:53 AM PDT by Will88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot
Trump is a transitory vehicle of the fed-up crowd, a current expression of their distaste for both Democratic and Republican politics, but not an end in and of himself.

Trump is the precursor ... for Cruz.

20 posted on 07/27/2015 8:12:33 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson