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Lesbian Democrat senator denies individual right to religious liberty
American Thinker ^ | July 13, 2015 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 07/13/2015 10:14:49 AM PDT by raptor22

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To: ifinnegan

She said that the 1st amendment on Freedom of Religion applied only to churches — not to individuals.


21 posted on 07/13/2015 12:32:01 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Perverts hate the Bible , God and religion in general . You see the stories of Soddam And Gomorra and the references of blasphemy describing homosexual perversion upsets them . I’m not at all surprised in their rejection of God , the Bible , Religion and moral normalcy . In fact at less than 3% of the population they are down right abnormal !!!


22 posted on 07/13/2015 12:34:54 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: 0bamanomics is the equal distribution of adolescent propaganda & indoctrination :-)
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To: Still Thinking; StopGlobalWhining; Straight Vermonter; Tampa Caver; TChris; ...

RELIGIOUS LIUBERTY PING


23 posted on 07/13/2015 12:52:08 PM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken or facebook.com/danielsobieski)
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To: raptor22; ifinnegan

It’s really a bit lazy to not click the link in the blog post to the actual story it is excerpting, editorializing, and convoluting, then post that story, instead of the blog itself. Maybe, in the opening comment post the blog title and link, marked as “related”, or some such.

I also agree with ifinnegan that the gist of the main thrust should be mentioned, rather than just clickbait, so people have some real idea of what was actually said/done.


24 posted on 07/13/2015 2:37:24 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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Thus spake Senator Tammy Baldwin, Bull Dyke-Wisconsin.


25 posted on 07/13/2015 2:42:09 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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Certainly the first amendment (sic) says that in institutions of faith that there is absolute power to, you know, to observe deeply held religious beliefs. But I don’t think it extends far beyond that. We’ve seen the set of arguments play out in issues such as access to contraception. Should it be the individual pharmacist whose religious beliefs guides whether a prescription is filled, or in this context, they’re talking about expanding this far beyond our churches and synagogues to businesses and individuals across this country. I think there are clear limits that have been set in other contexts and we ought to abide by those in this new context across America.”

Baldwin misreads the Constitution with its mandate saying Congress shall pass no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. It is a key phrase in the First Amendment, leading off the Bill of Rights. These are individual rights fought for in the American Revolution. These rights are not limited to institutions; they apply to all individuals, just as the Supreme Court has decided the Second Amendment applies to individuals and not just to state-ordained militias. Baldwin had been asked the question, “Should the bakery have to bake the cake for the gay couple getting married? Where do you come down on that?” She came down on the side of government coercion and the proposition that church is something you do on Sunday for an hour, and you otherwise shouldn’t act on your religious beliefs in your daily life. The owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa tried to act on their faith but were ordered to pay $135,000 to a lesbian couple based on an order from the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries. As the Washington Times reported:

The order affirms an initial ruling in January that found Aaron and Melissa Klein had violated Oregon civil-rights law by refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony in 2013 and ordered them to pay damages to Rachel Cryer and Laurel Bowman.

In Iran, gay wedding cake and pizza requests are handled a bit more harshly and with more finality than a simple statement from a business owner that his or her faith won’t allow him or her to cater the affair. If two gays contemplating marriage had walked into a Tehran pizza shop like Memories Pizza in Walkerton, Indiana, the pizza shop that refused to cater a gay wedding, hanging in the public square and not a simple refusal would have been a conceivable outcome. Crystal O’Connor, member of the family that owns Memories Pizza, told local ABC news affiliate that she agreed with Indiana’s version of the federal RFRA signed into law by President Bill Clinton in 1993. “If a gay couple came in and wanted us to provide pizzas for their wedding, we would have to say no,” she told local station ABC57. Her beliefs and rights and the beliefs and rights of the owners of Sweet Cakes should be respected. The Hobby Lobby case revolved around the belief of the owners that people should be free to act on their faith in their daily lives, which includes their business lives. It is a belief shared by many, including the Founding Fathers. As Investor’s Business Daily observed:

So do scores of Catholic and non-Catholic institutions and businesses who argue either that the way they run their private businesses is an extension of their faith or that a church, something the federal government seeks to redefine, is not something that happens one hour a week on a Sunday but 24/7 through the hospitals, schools, soup kitchens and charities they may operate. They argue that acting out their faith through their works should not be illegal.

To gay advocates, acting on your sincerely held religious beliefs is bigotry. They ask that their lifestyles be respected as well as their newly discovered right to marriage, apparently found in the “penumbras and emanations” of the Constitution that also gave us the right to abortion. Neither abortion nor marriage is mentioned specifically in the Constitution, but religious liberty is, and those who say acting on your faith is bigotry are physicians sorely in need of healing themselves. Sen. Baldwin’s definition of religious liberty is not very different from Lenin’s and Stalin’s. Investor’s Business Daily once quoted Cardinal George regarding Obamacare and its imposition of the contraceptive mandate on religious institutions:

“Freedom of worship was guaranteed in the Constitution of the former Soviet Union,” Chicago’s Francis Cardinal George recently wrote. “You could go to church, if you could find one. The church, however, could do nothing except conduct religious rites in places of worship — no schools, religious publications, health care institutions, organized charity, ministry for justice and works of mercy that flow naturally from a living faith. We fought a long Cold War to defeat that vision of society.”

One wonders what would happen, or should happen in Sen. Baldwin’s view, if a gay couple walked into a Muslim bakery and asked for a Confederate flag on their wedding cake and asked for the ceremony to be performed in a mosque. The road to anarchy and the end of liberty is paved with political correctness.


26 posted on 07/13/2015 6:04:02 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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