Posted on 07/09/2015 9:13:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Peter St. Onge writes: The job-threatening rise of the machines is an economically illiterate meme that refuses to die. Were actually probably in the early stages of it, a bull-market in neo-luddism, if you will. Bastiats Candlemakers Petititon answered this one long ago, but today Ill run a little thought experiment that owes it all to good old Bastiat.
Lets say Weird Al Yankovic invents a machine capable of making everything with a single push of a button. The first thing he does is print up a bunch of machines and sell them for a ton. Weird Al is now a billionaire, and there are thousands of make-everything machines.
This diffusion of Weird Als new technology replicates the market process, where new tech spreads in proportion to its usefulness. If you doubt this, because of patents, for example, check out Brazils experience with AIDS drugs, where they tore up the patents on humanitarian grounds.
Weird Als machines will, at a minimum, be mass produced in Brazil. Or China. Or Mozambique.
So, one way or another, we get a bunch of make-everything machines.
What happens to the jobs? Were getting everything for near-free now. So all the production jobs disappear. There are still lots of jobs, of course child-care, gardeners, musicians. But all the production jobs have vanished something like 20 percent of jobs, maybe up to 50 percent when you include knock-on replacement of people by capital (truck drivers, robot bartenders). Heck, lets go crazy and say 90 percent of the jobs vanished. Nobodys got a job outside of preschool or performing on a stage. Its the end of the world, right?
Well, the key here is that, now that everything is made with the push of a button, everythings extremely cheap. For example, a sixteen-bedroom house or a Lamborghini costs almost nothing. Lets say they now cost ten cents.
The main expense in such a world is probably surface space. To park all those dime-a-dozen cars. Itd take a while to run out of space, though divide the world by the people and you get about twenty acres (eight hectares) for a family of four about 100 large surburban yards. Add in the oceans floating islands cost nothing, remember and triple that. We end up with about 300 homes-worth of space per family.
What about those unemployed people? Well, when a house or a years food costs a dime, theyll be willing to work really cheap. Well work for a penny a day. After all, thats a new house or a years food every two weeks.
Who would hire these workers for a penny? Plenty of people. Heck, if workers cost a penny a day Id hire several for each of my children. Just to keep the kids from getting bored. Id hire another to cook, one to clean, one to run errands. One to keep track of my mail. One to check Facebook for me. At a penny a day Id personally hire 100 people, easy. You would too a buck a days nothing.
So the remaining 10 percent of workers who didnt lose their jobs babysitters, baristas, musicians would want 100 workers each. Even at a penny, theyd take them all, and theyd be paying an outrageous rate a tenth-house per day! Thats a daily rate of $15,000 in todays terms.
Now, those who kept their jobs would, of course, see dropping wages. A barista who made $12 an hour in the old days would have to compete with the hordes of unemployed workers. Maybe her wage would drop to a penny, too. But, remember, a penny now buys $15,000 worth of stuff.
When the smoke clears, most people would make some extremely low wages a penny a day. And that extremely low wage would be worth an awful lot $15,000 a day. Implying an annual income north of several million dollars in todays values. Some lucky few would make a dollar a day probably the people who are good at things machines cannot do: entertainment, child-care, being a good listener, strumming the guitar at the old-folks home, and laughing at jokes. At a dollar a day, this super-rich elite that excels at human skills such as making us laugh would be billionaires in todays values.
Either way, there would be nothing we think of even remotely as poverty. Sure, therell be inequality, but itll be of the sort Sarahs got 200 Lamborghinis and Ive only got 40.
The upshot is that wages plunge, but production costs plunge even more. Of course, this is based on the ridiculous Weird Al machine. Why do this? To illustrate the absolute worst-case scenario, when machines make everything for near-nothing.
What about going one step further, that the machine destroys all jobs in the whole world it makes every single thing for us free, and it even keeps the folks entertained and the warm fuzzies flowing at the old folks home.
Well, weve already got a case study there the sun. It gives us warmth and mangos for free. And how do we respond? We sit around and lazily enjoy it. So a machine that truly replaced all jobs would simply mean nobody works anymore lifes somewhere between a non-stop party and a non-stop pleasant walk in the woods followed by a nice bonfire with friends and chardonnay.
We should all be so lucky that the machines do actually take every last job there is.
See? “above” ... what is “above”? At one time this was understood quite literally. How is it understood now?
Depending on the person, perhaps black helicopters, or then again the legendary FSM. That’s if one expands to “help from above”.
You’re dodging. What do you see “above”?
So that’s equivalent to $45,000 per day.
I’ll drive one of my Lamborghini every day.
I’ll take the job, based on the fact you’re a FReeper, and are probably a decent person.
Are you talking about with eyes or something else? Ain’t a dodge if one explores all possibilities, is it?
This is the quintessential dodge. How to believe without believing.
Really? Who's going to just give it away? Someone has to start the process. Who will do that for free.
This has to be the most absurd article I've read in years.
This is the kind of economic thought that generally surfaces late at night in the dorm after a three hour bong-a-thon, featuring some potent green bud. Normally it is followed with cheesecake and eight hours of sleep. In the morning it is forgotten.
You would pick anything you desire like fruit growing in an endless orchard.
Our orchard will be the vast expanse of the entire Universe and all of its elements. Infinity as we perceive it.
And beyond...
We deceive and fight due to scarcity of materials, space and time.
Eliminate the scarcity for everyone and people will see again what is important
Also meant to say that the process will not start for “free”. People will initially develop these technologies for a greater piece of this pie
But eventually these technologies will make things so automated and abundant that the pie becomes infinite.
I’m talking to the point where people can create and terraform entire mini planets for themselves and generate any environment they like any time they like with self-replicating molecular machines.
Sure, today it seems crazy and maybe dangerous. But think how drastically the picture changed in less than 100 years with relatively simple technology. We still have people on this Earth who live like apes
Not true at all. Deception and fighting went on even during the years of plenty and excess. Human nature is not dependent at all upon material abundance; in fact, such abundance makes us forget about God quicker.
Blue collar skilled trades are the future, because it is too complex for machines and too many people don’t want to do the work.
The Great Shift Toward Automation and the Future of Employment
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/The-Great-Shift-and-the-Future-of-Employment
We have NOT had true plenty and excess for all of recorded history. Endless food, land and perfect climate for ALL. Such a concept is so far removed from our current view of the timeline that we cannot even comprehend it. Yet, every culture STILL has stories passed down from the times of “Eden”.
We simply ran out of such perfect places on this planet. Not enough land and fruit for us to simply frolic in nature without using labor/force. Then our minds slowly evolved to fight over these things for hundreds of thousands of years. Through thousands of wars and genocides fought over land and food.
But once you strip that all away and make all we fight for irrelevant, you see Love and the sharing of it is the true primary desire of man. It will all re-emerge in a future chapter
The really bad jobs will pay two cents an hour instead of one. Capitalism isn't eliminated under the author's vision -- the numbers just get smaller.
Yeah, sure. Marx said the same thing in 1848.
Marx lived in a struggling agrarian society and had little comprehension of what is possible. Just like all of humanity for hundreds of thousands of years.
The entire Universe will eventually become our new orchard, our new Eden. Infinity
And then beyond...
With whose help, now? Not humanity by itself. You still don’t seem to understand greed.
If everything is cheap so it the fantastic little machine. It's just another thing.
We are on the verge of an unprecedented understanding of the Higher Power, the theory of everything, infinity, eternity, unity etc. Known as “God” for most of history
So yes, it is all coming together.
Despite the forces of evil and doubt...
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