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Trump Resurrects Birther Issue; A lot Of People Don't Believe Obama Birth Certificate Real
BirtherReport.com ^ | July 8, 2015 | Donald Trump

Posted on 07/09/2015 9:51:39 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: A CA Guy
Not helpful, the mother was a USA citizen so he was also one by birth.

Only if he was born *IN* the country. Her citizenship has nothing to do with his citizenship because she was too young to transfer citizenship according to the law.

*IF* he was born inside the United States, he is a 14th amendment citizen. If he was born outside of the United States, He is a citizen of that country, not of this one. Again, the law says the mother must have lived in the United States consecutively for five years, *AFTER* 14 years of age. She had to be 19 to transfer citizenship if he was born outside our borders.

I also contend 14th amendment citizenship is not the same thing as natural citizenship.

81 posted on 07/09/2015 10:45:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: CodeToad
We already know who. He admitted it. If forget the name but search for it. It is already out there.

He could be a person lying for notoriety or whatever. I don't believe Sheriff Arpaio has named anyone, but only says he knows who.

82 posted on 07/09/2015 10:45:53 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
This is my favorite part of Barry's BC:
Race of Father "African"
Lol! I laugh almost every time I see that.

What a twisted joke "they" have played on US.

83 posted on 07/09/2015 10:47:39 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: Red Steel

Not really. The forgery was an amateur work of garbage. It was easily detected as a forgery. There was no genius to it.


84 posted on 07/09/2015 10:48:47 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: GraceG
I think the overlooked scandal is his book jacket, which refers to him as being Kenyan born.

It wasn't a book jacket. It was a brief bio blurb included in a pamphlet along with information about 70 or so other authors. It was put out by Obama's literary agent for the benefit of some publishing houses.

85 posted on 07/09/2015 10:48:49 AM PDT by CpnHook
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To: Red Steel

I think The sheriff is a loud mouth bully. He could have the cure for cancer handed to him from Elijah and he would screw it up because his personality is abrasive.


86 posted on 07/09/2015 10:50:46 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Seizethecarp

With this, Trump confirms that he’s a troll in Hillary’s camp.


87 posted on 07/09/2015 10:50:59 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: CodeToad

Yes I know it is POS forgery. I’m saying that Arpaio’s forgery suspect may not be the same guy who claims on the Internet that he created the WH forgery.


88 posted on 07/09/2015 10:51:19 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Well, I have waited long enough for Sheriff Joe to come out with his information. All this drama queen crap has got to stop. Either poop or get off the pot.


89 posted on 07/09/2015 10:53:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
This is someones BC from Hawaii...See the folds? The aged look? And this is from 1978...

A birth certificate copied from the original and issued in 1978 is apt to look a bit weathered when that person has used it, stored it, moved it, etc., over a period of 40 years.

Obama's was issued in 2011. Not surprisingly, it looks more pristine.

90 posted on 07/09/2015 10:53:59 AM PDT by CpnHook
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To: Sasparilla
What I'm saying is when the BC is issued, they put it in an envelope and give it to the parents. Matter of fact I still have the original envelope and so does my brother. That's why that Hawaiian one has folds. The bottom line is where is his ORIGINAL BC? That green sheet is NOT his original BC. It looks to me more like a photocopy from a book, do hospitals keep records like that from 53 years ago? And even if they do, that paper looks mighty new to me. Someone please show me anything from 1961 that looks as new as this. Plus they didn't call black people "African" back then. They were called "Negroes" yet they have the race of his father down as "African" plus what are these pencil marks on it? It's like someone was writing over it on another sheet of paper and the writing went through. If so then that means a different form other than a birth certificate was on top of it. Why? Because it's fake!


91 posted on 07/09/2015 10:56:24 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 19 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: CodeToad

He doesn’t talk about it much. Months go by these days before he may mention it. It’s us posters who yak yak about it much more often. And NBC here who brought up the unsolicited questioned to Trump.


92 posted on 07/09/2015 10:58:03 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: FewsOrange
Because why give all the goods to the RINO GOP, who have all the goods on Benghazi and refuse to do anything with it? Arpaio knows that if he hands this over, it's out of his hands and the GOP and media will make it disappear. They are in collusion with the current occupant of the White Hut. Either that, or they simply are cowards.

The GOP are crapweasels, people. You think they're your friends, but they are not. Joe knows this. He also knows Breitbart dropped dead on a sidewalk within hours of talking to him about this.

93 posted on 07/09/2015 10:58:53 AM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: martinidon

I think you’re right. He’s going to address a crowd with the Sheriff about illegal alien criminals. The media would like to make it about the BC to shut down the talk of illegals, but we shall see.


94 posted on 07/09/2015 11:02:41 AM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The larger issue is this; Does someone with only 14th amendment citizenship meet the requirements of being a "natural" citizen? My answer is "No." No they do not.

Sadly for you, the 39th Congress and the SCOTUS disagree with you.

Do you need another lesson on how that Congress repeatedly affirmed the citizenship clauses of the Civil Rights Act and 14th Amendment were merely declaratory of existing law, and how the Senate drafters of those clauses affirmed that "existing law" embodied a jus soli principle as to birth citizenship?

Do you need another lesson in how Wong Kim Ark affirmed that Congressional intent in finding that the 14th Amendment birth citizenship clause was simply an incorporation of the common law jus soli principle which our Founders adopted from English common law and which held forth under the Constitution as originally drafted and beyond?

It seems school once again needs to be opened.

95 posted on 07/09/2015 11:02:50 AM PDT by CpnHook
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To: ponygirl

Trump has a knack to always makes the media look like fools.


96 posted on 07/09/2015 11:05:24 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: CpnHook
Sadly for you, the 39th Congress and the SCOTUS disagree with you.

For which a sh*t I do not give. Truth is not subject to their opinions. The Court just created "gay marriage" do you agree with them? If yes, then we'll inform Jim Robinson, if No, then shut the F*** up about citing the Modern courts as an authority on anything.

Do you need another lesson on how that Congress repeatedly affirmed the citizenship clauses of the Civil Rights Act and 14th Amendment were merely declaratory of existing law, and how the Senate drafters of those clauses affirmed that "existing law" embodied a jus soli principle as to birth citizenship?

Do you need another lesson on the fallacy of false authority?

Also here is another fallacy you constantly use.

Do you need another lesson in how Wong Kim Ark affirmed that Congressional intent in finding that the 14th Amendment birth citizenship clause was simply an incorporation of the common law jus soli principle which our Founders adopted from English common law and which held forth under the Constitution as originally drafted and beyond?

Do you need it pointed out to you once more that were the common law as you claim, the 14th amendment is unnecessary and redundant?

It seems school once again needs to be opened.

I don't see any good to come of it, you are too stupid, and too stubborn to learn anything. You argue against provable facts, and so your mental state is also questionable.

You are a stupid little b*tch boy who once again needs a good public humiliation like I always give you when you open your mouth.

97 posted on 07/09/2015 11:13:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: ifinnegan

“I think Obama is and always has been 100% qualified to be president. Sad but true, and any rational educated person knows that.”

“...any rational educated person knows that.”

Was that assurance there for you, as a rational educated person, BEFORE Obama released the questionable birth certificate? And why did Obama wait so long to release it?


98 posted on 07/09/2015 11:13:33 AM PDT by odawg
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To: lacrew

I believe from docs that I have show that Obama was the result of mama in her teens shacking up with a SE Asia commie guru by the name of Muhammed Subuh. Look him up on the internet and compare photos of him and Obama at about the same age.


99 posted on 07/09/2015 11:15:24 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Mr. K

“On a side note- WHAT HAPPENED TO ARIZONA POSSE MEMBER ZULLO’s ‘EARTH SHATTERING NEWS”???”

First Holder and now Lynch has Arpaio tied up in Federal Court with civil charges of abusing illegal immigrants during traffic stops.

If Arpaio renews “birther” charges against Barry at this time it will muddy the federal case against him at this time and open him up the charges that Arpaio is retaliating against DOJ for going after him on the illegals at a tit-for-tat.

Arpaio needs Boehner or FBI director Comey to step up and initiate a proper investigation (discovery/subpoenas of the forged BC based on the word that Arpaio has already completed which is totally sufficient to commence such an investigation if Boehner and the FBI (and the media) weren’t corrupted!

So, IMO, don’t blame Arpaio and Zullo for lack of action.


100 posted on 07/09/2015 11:15:27 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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