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To: Norm Lenhart

“Not sure where you got that idea. We are also taught to sell our coats to buy swords.”

I cannot tell what you are referring to...however, we must be very careful to not just take little pieces from the Bible and extrapolation huge meanings without knowing more fully what the Bible is saying.


55 posted on 06/27/2015 4:16:42 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Apologies. I was referring to the statement you were quoting. I should have been more careful in my reading.

That said, I see noting in the Bible that commands us to simply lie down and accept evil without a fight. Otherwise, what is the point in anything. Christians would simply have to accept everything stoically and participate in it. That would make no sense.

Turning the other cheek to me means that yes, we have to live in the world and everything will not go our way. Sometimes we so have to stoically bear burdens. But not existential stuff. And Nazi Germany proved beyond doubt that gay men with power can result in existential issues.


68 posted on 06/27/2015 4:42:11 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Wpin
"I cannot tell what you are referring to...however, we must be very careful to not just take little pieces from the Bible and extrapolation huge meanings without knowing more fully what the Bible is saying.

Well....how do you feel about this one...?

Isaiah 3:1-12

1 For, behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, doth take away from Jerusalem and from Judah the stay and the staff, the whole stay of bread, and the whole stay of water,

2 The mighty man, and the man of war, the judge, and the prophet, and the prudent, and the ancient,

3 The captain of fifty, and the honourable man, and the counsellor, and the cunning artificer, and the eloquent orator.

4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.

5 And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.

6 When a man shall take hold of his brother of the house of his father, saying, Thou hast clothing, be thou our ruler, and let this ruin be under thy hand:

7 In that day shall he swear, saying, I will not be an healer; for in my house is neither bread nor clothing: make me not a ruler of the people.

8 For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory.

9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

10 Say ye to the righteous, that it shall be well with him: for they shall eat the fruit of their doings.

11 Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him.

12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

168 posted on 06/27/2015 8:08:22 AM PDT by unread
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